from "the washington post," white house bureau chief phil rucker.lus former chief of staff to vice presidents joe biden and al gore. former republican congressman david jolly. chief public affairs officer from move' on.org, karine jean-pierre. i didn't get all the way through this, but i read big chunks of it. the tension in her voice, and it's hard to articulate how tough and how seasoned a diplomat like marie yovanovitch is and they all are by and large. but to hear her talk about being threatened and feeling so threatened in her posting, not from the ukrainians but from her domestic enemies in the trump white house was chilling. >> yeah. i mean, first of all she had been in the foreign service for decades, served in some tough places and never experienced something like that because nothing like that had ever happened before. because that's not how we conduct foreign policy in the united states. the other thing i take away from this, nicole, is so much of the focus has been on this one phone call. this was a multimonth-long effort to essentially

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fill ruck phil rucker is here, former u.s. attorney joyce vance, also former u.s. attorney and social editor, amy is here, some of our closest repo historic day. phil rucker, take us through it. >> nicolle, i don't think anybody would be surprised to hear that it is chaotic and disruptive, and indeed, it is chaotic. they can't get on the front page and this has been going on for two weeks since the impeachment inquiry first began. there was an effort to provide efforts on capitol hill and weren't armed with the information they need to do so, and now you're seeing the split between the white house chief of staff and the white house counsel. those are the two most important figures in the impeachment defense of the president and of the administration who can't get on the same page, have been rivals now for several months and building, and those tensions are exacerbating just at the moment when the president needs them to come together and unite to defend his very presidency, which is at stake starting tomorrow. >> i know from being in the white house, it had a lot o

"the washington post" phil rucker has read a warning. tonight he quotes the author as saying senior trumprn administration officials considered resigning on mass last year in a midnight self-massacre to sound a public alarm about president trump's conduct but rejected the idea because they believe it would a further destabilize an already t teetering government. another quote describes trump careening from one self-inflicted crisis to the next, like a 12-year-old in an air traffic control tower, pushing the buttons of government indiscriminately, indifferent to the planes skidding across the runway and the flights frantically diverting away from the airport. the post includes another quote about what it's like inside the white house when the president tweets. quote, it's like showing up at the nursing home at daybreak tot find your elderly uncle running pantsless across the courtyard and cursing loudly about the cafeteria food as worried attendants try to catch him. you're stunned. amused and embarrassed all at the same time only your un

and msnbc political analyst phil rucker and "washington post" bureau chief. take us through the key points when it comes to the impeachment inquiry and the trump inner circle. it was, chris, what you saw from president trump, it was defiance before he departed for atlanta, not surprising. you played some of the key takeaways. i thought it was notable that president trump said i don't think we should have these public hearings, i think it's a hoax. of course the public hearings set to begin next week. the white house ramping up its communications team ahead of that and clearly the president ramping up his messaging. that stood out to me, of course, because he's been slamming this entire process because it's been behind closed doors, almost egging democrats on to hold the hearings in public. now he's going to get his wish and that's what's going to happen next week. clearly some concerns inside trump world, chris, about how that is going to play out when you have these transcripts, this testimony that so far has been in written form out in the open for the publ

. >> phil rucker, always magnanimous, the trump campaign has put out ate statement tonight. the president just about dragged governor matt bevin across the finish line. the president did say in front of the crowd last night in kentucky, if you lose, it sends a really bad message. you can't let that happen to me. do you think the president will take this personally? >> he will take it personally, but he's not going to accept any blame personally, and i assume when he speaks about this tomorrow, he'll echo that statement from the campaign. but we should underscore what a significant loss this is politically for the president. kentucky is not one of those swing states. it's a state that he won handily in 2016 that he's expected to carry with a significant margin in 2020. he flew there last night because he thought he could get bevin over the finish line. that was a rally to get out the vote, to turn out all those trump supporters to vote for the republican incumbent governor, and it was not enough. and so that's an indication that trump's supporters are not necessarily going to

phil rucker, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> meantime a 13-year-old in southern california iscustody this morning, accused of threatening to shoot up his school. and authorities say tragedy was avoided because fellow classmates and staffers sounded the alarm just in time. nbc's kathy park is here with more. >> authorities discovered a disturbing cache of evidence at the student's home. a rifle with a high-capacity magazine, a hand-drawn map of the school and a list of targets. concerns about a mass shooting were flagged right away. this morning, a crisis averted. a community on-edge, and a 13-year-old at the center of a los angeles school shooting threat, planned for friday but foiled just the day before. >> the threat alleged a student was going to shoot other students. >> we're going to treat every threat with the utmost serious nature. >> reporter: investigators found chilling scho ining clues at th home. 100 rounds of ammunition. a hand-drawn map of the middle school and other evidence. >> he had a list of names. we're trying to determine what that list was for, at this po

. >> phil rucker, part of the problem with the republican argument that this is a kind of deep state pact is that it would have had to have been a pact from all these big names, including career public servants, including members of the military with no motivation or reason to lie. they all seem to be telling pieces of the same story. >> that's right, brian. and what's so significant, i think today about the testimony of ambassador sondland is he's not one of these or a never trumper, to use your political's phrase. he's been supporting the president. he wanted a job in the strait, he rewarded with that ambassadorship. his initial testimony a week or two ago, and for him to make this correction, to acknowledge the quid pro quo he has been denying is really extraordinary because of his bid. and while i have you, let's talk about mike pompeo for a hot second. it had been said he had scripted at least his tacit approval, people were trolling him on social media today but repeating the honor code at west point. things have turned dark for the secretary of defense. >> they have. mike pomp

phil rucker, i never have been successful in getting you to speculate wildly. what do you think was going on in the oval office late today. ma marine one is idling. he stayed behind the oval office and all we saw was speculation and both men with his ag talking in the oval office. brian to be a fly on that curve wall, right? >> exactly. >> we don't know what was being discussed in that moment but there are a couple of things to keep in mind about attorney general barr. he's in the middle of personally overseeing this investigation into the investigation that the justice department has launched in the russia investigation, something that president trump cares deeply about. perhaps, that came up in the discussion to something barr himself traveled to several foreign countries to get to the bottom of. there is a desire on the president's conservative allies. detracting attention away from the impeachment proceedings. one thing to remember from a couple of years earlier, this has happened before. there was that moment when the president was late to get on marin one

. >> phil rucker, "washington post," always a pleasure having you on. thanks, phil. >> thank you, brian. >>> coming up, the controversy that prompted the president to fire his navy secretary. we will ask a medal of honor recipient here in this studio about the message this may send through the ranks. e this may se through the ranks. for a cold sore, i don't use some waxy cover up. i use herpecín l, it penetrates deep to treat. it soothes moisturizes and creates a spf 30 barrier to protect against flare ups caused by the sun. herpecín l. it does more for a cold sore. >>> the now former navy secretary richard spencer is speaking out tonight about his sudden departure this weekend. the controversy centers around u.s. navy chief petty officer edward gallagher. he was found guilty of posing for a photo with the corpse of an isis fighter. gallagher was then demoted but the president reversed that decision. the navy was still pushing for a review to determine whether gallagher should lose his status, hard earned as a navy seal and the gold trident pin that seal

. >> so phil rucker, this is where is lindsey graham and try to explain.hat we're looking at in your "washington post" reporting your team reporting new reporting that mick mulvaney, who runs the budget office and is the acting chief of staff, also came up with all kinds of excuses to try to explain withholding that ukraine aid. >> two important issues here. first of all, with senator graham, he's clearly proceeding along the direction that the president wants him to by trying to investigate the paidbidens b trying to get those documents from the state department and make the inquiry into the bidens and ukraine more of a substantive part of the discussion as the impeachment inquiry heads toward a likely senate trial early next year. now, with the new reporting by my colleagues over the weekend regarding mick mulvaney's role at the white house, it's another example of how far reaching the effort was inside the administration and among the president's top aides to try to cover up what the president was trying to do by withholding that foreign aid. there are

. >> phil rucker, "washington post," it's always a pleasure having you on. thanks, phil. >> thank you, brian. >>> coming up for us here tonight, the controversy that prompted the president to fire his navy secretary. we will ask a medal of honor recipient here in this studio about the message this may send through the ranks. it's time for the ultimate sleep number event on the sleep number 360 smart bed. you can adjust your comfort on both sides, your sleep number setting. can it help us fall asleep faster? yes, by gently warming your feet. but can it help keep us asleep? absolutely, it intelligently senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. so you can really promise better sleep. not promise... prove. only at a sleep number store during the ultimate sleep number event, save 50% on the sleep number 360 limited edition smart bed. ends cyber monday. >>> the now former navy secretary richard spencer is speaking out tonight about his sudden departure this weekend. the controversy centers around u.s. navy chief pett

phil rucker, i never have been successful in getting you to speculate wildly. i'd love to hit one tonight. what do you think was going on in the oval office late today? marine one is idling. and it's not quiet when it is. it's very clear your ride has arrived if you're the president but he stayed behind in the oval office and, again, all we saw was gesticulation and both men with his ag talking in the oval office. >> yeah, brian, to be a fly on that curved wall, right? >> yeah, exactly, the wall with no corners. >> we don't know what was being discussed in that moment but there are a couple of things to keep in mind about attorney general barr. he's in the middle of personally overseeing this investigation into the investigation that the probe that the justice department has launched into the origins of the russia investigation, something that president trump cares very deeply about. perhaps that came up in the discussion, something that barr himself has traveled to several foreign countries to try to get to the bottom of. there is a desire on the president's c

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relates get to it, phil rucker and deputy assistant secretary of state and former spokesperson for the hillary clinton campaign, or just hillary clinton, period, philippe rines. phil, i'm going to start with you. >> i can declare -- if you like. >> philip, not you, philippe, philip. in terms what the white house saw this week. i know the president was on fox news this morning, talking for 53 minutes and completely mischaracterizing what the witnesses said. are they nervous about the with the witnesses said, is that why the president is 34s chaeshgtdize ichaeshgtd i mischaracterizing? >> the belief is whatever narrative he puts forward, tells people publicly, his voters, his base are going to believe. while the last two weeks of extraordinary historic testimony has brought new facts to light and really bolstered the fact-based narrative surrounding what trump and his allies are trying to do with regards to ukraine. you know, whatever trump says is what his followers are believing as of now. there seems to be no indication that those supporters of ehe re congressmen are changing their mi

joining me msnbc correspondent garrett haake, bureau chief and msnbc political analyst phil rucker and "washington post" white house correspondent anne gearan along with former deputy assistant secretary of state joe reuben. i want to go back to my email and get your take on what we just saw, that there was a new sworn statement that was given to congress this week by gordon sondland saying he now remembers telling a top aide to the president of ukraine that ukraine would not get its military assistance until it committed to the investigations. garrett? >> chris, sure, i'll take that. gordon sondland has been an interesting figure in all of this. he was someone whose testimony we know had contradicted that of several other witnesses. reading the transcripts here, his memory appears to get weaker and weaker as we get closer to the present day. now an official familiar with his testimony tells us that he did come back after reading the publicly released opening statements of several other witnesses and amend his testimony in one crucial way. he says he now remembers a discussion with a t