reporters who worked on the project, the post's senior washington correspondent, philip rucker phil rucker to the newshour, thank you so much for being here, so there has already been as you know so much reporting on january 6th. there have been investigations, why did the post decide to do an additional deep accounting? >> a couple of reasons, ju aye shall-- judy and thanks for having me here, first there was more information to learn. we talked to more than 230 sources in the government, other key officials and figures who were involved in the run-up to january 6th, the event, the aftermath, we reviewed thousands of pages of court documents and other internal records at the fbi and justice department and found out scores of new details about whatted lead to the attack, the aftermath of it and post most importantly some of the red fags that were ignored by the pbi, d o.j. and other agencies in those days before january 6th. >> woodruff: let's start with the red flags because the report says red flags were everywhere before hand but that this was carefully planned from one end of the count

we're back with ashley parker, carol leonnig and phil rucker., this is the part of the report i read more times than any and i still don't understand what happened. what happened to the call for blood from the blood banks? who heard that? >> you know, nicolle, the people at the blood banks heard it. but the problem that we uncovered in this reporting is that there were so many red flags that were missed and that were not sort of put into context by the powers that be at the top of some of these agencies, especially the fbi, but also the military and other elements of the federal government. the warnings were there to be seen. the chatter was live for anyone who wanted to look for it on social media. and by the way, the red flags continued into the morning of january 6th. we obtained and listened to chatter from park police radio communications early that morning, 8:00 a.m., 9:00 a.m., down at the washington monument and the lincoln memorial where there were hundreds of pro-trump demonstrators clashing with police. they were leaving backpacks una

and what we found, as phil rucker masterfully wrote -- before the january 6th attacks, during, and after. then for 187 minutes. that is from when then trump orders his supporters to march on the capitol, his speech on january six down on the national mall. day to when he -- 197 minutes later sent that video telling them to go home. we document how he did nothing. but that's not quite right, because they're not doing anything, and not saying anything, and not calling off his supporters, he was doing more damage than he could possibly imagine. during that period, that is when the police officer end up dying. when another protester has a cardiac episode and dies. when ashley babbitt, the protester breaks through and into the speaker lobby and his shot and dies. when police officers are beaten with their own weapons. when lawmakers are fleeing and hiding and cowering and racing through the capitol while his own vice president, his own supporters are chanting to hang mike pence, and donald trump is doing nothing what but watching tv, he's talking about the crowd size, posting about the crowd

. >> phil rucker, let's go back to tonight's other story and that is the committee action. remind us biden to this reporting for your books and the daily journalism in the washington post. remind us who jeffrey clark is and what his potential one six exposure is. >> yes, brian, jeffrey clark is not exactly a household name. he does not see bannon. somebody who we've been hearing about the last couple of years. but he is a very influential figure in the final months of the administration. he was a senior official at the justice department who was in contact directly with president trump in the months following the election. talking about the so-called big lie about trump's election fraud. and he actually was taking measures to try and pressure state legislators in georgia to delay certification of joe biden's win in that state as part of a broader scheme with then, president trump and other trump allies to effectively subvert the election results to interrupt the peaceful transfer of power and tried to keep trump in power. he was an official at the justice department who was

. >> we also want to put a question to our friend phil rucker tonight, the pulitzer prize-winning senior washington correspondent for the washington post. phil, i just want to get your, read your white house reporting, and how they're thinking, tonight obviously they are proud of this accomplishment. obviously, they can look forward as well. >> i think that's right, brian they're very proud of this accomplishment, you can see it in president biden. his grid throughout the signing ceremony today, and that a vice president harris. they know this is only part one. and there's a lot of unfinished business still, with the holidays approaching. you are going to see an effort by this white house, to marshal all of those democratic votes in the senate, in keep together the coalition in the house. to try to pass the second portion, of the president's domestic agenda. that larger bill, what we can call human infrastructure. that's critical of course to satisfying the presidents progressive base. and the clock is ticking. they realize come 2022 next year, this is going to be on the midterm election

. >> we also wanted to put a question to our friend phil rucker tonight, the pulitzer prize-winning correspondent the "washington post." phil, i just wanted to get your read, your white house reporting on how they're thinking tonight. obviously they're proud of this accomplishment. obviously they can look forward as well. >> i think that's right, brian. they're very proud of this accomplishment. you can see it in the hall. >> they know this is only part 1 and others will be very busy from marketing to try to pass this second portion of the president's domestic agenda, that larger bill on what we could call human infrastructure. it's a very progressive base and the clock is ticking. they realize that come 2022 next year, all focus will be on the midterm election. so the window of opportunity here seems to be closing. even though they're celebrating a victory tonight, there's more work to begin tomorrow morning. >> and, indeed. with folks paying what they're paying for gas, uncertainty over holiday gifts and the life americans are living. it doesn't matter what happens on the white house lawn if th

. >> phil rucker, like you i'm fascinated that yamiche singled out in-laws at thanksgiving. we'll have our investigative unit look into her -- the underpinnings of her reasonings there. but phil, while i have you, to another point yamiche made, this uptick in cases. give me the level of concern in the biden camp about this pandemic that we cannot seem to stamp out. >> well, brian, there certainly is concern in the white house but also throughout the federal government with the various covid officials who now for nearly two years have been trying to protect americans and trying to get rid of this virus that simply cannot go away. here in washington today was a big day. it was the first day that the mayor's order mandating masks inside of businesses, inside of restaurants, thatlifted as of t. and it of course coincides with what we're seeing, the rise in cases around the country. so there's actual concern here in washington that the lifting of the mask mandate may not last very long if these cases continue to spike, we may be back to wearing more masks and further shutdown. it'

rucker. carol and phil are the coauthors of the book, i alone can fix it. lucky for us, all three are msnbc contributor. carol, i want to start with you and this ongoing conversation we have had since january 6th of the lack of interest in one of the two political parties in the united states of america to dive into this evidence, as has been unearthed by this investigation and by the 1/6 committee. is there anything refusaler to about their posture on all of this content that you guys unearthed? >> you know, i'm really glad that you mentioned that, nicolle, because the lack of interest on the part of members of the republican party in the house especially to investigate what happened january 6th, which was not 9/11, but as close as we can get to 9/11 since that moment, kind of watershed moment in terms of an attack on our democracy and on the country but from within. it was really the catalyst of the republicans' lack of interest, it was the catalyst for all of we three, and 20-plus more journalists and another 50 designers, et cetera, to launch on this su

susan page of "usa today" and phil rucker. co-author of "i alone can fix it." a great read. let's talk about what happened with mccarthy overnight. let's play a little bit of this -- i don't know if you would call it charchillian but it was a speech. >> i want to go back to when we respected around the world. i want do go back to when we didn't have north korea testing nuclear weapons. i want to go back to when china wasn't flying over taiwan every day. this day is only one black american elected to congress and the senate. tim scott. madame speaker, i know your body knows to impeach. you have done it twice. in my district there's two families that grow 50% of all the carrots in the country. you ever eaten a baby carrot? there's no such thing. they chop and charge you more and you buy them. >> we have seriously got a shortage of baby carrots. that's what's wrong with america. >> yeah. yeah. i had no idea what that was all about. the gesticulation of kevin mccarthy. you nailed it. i want to be speaker and i'll perform for you. and build up your confidence in me as a future lea

white house correspondent for "usa today," carol leonnig for "the washington post," co-author with phil rucker of "i alone can fix it" and cynthia oxney former federal prosecutor in the civil rights division of the department of justice. good evening and welcome to you all and cynthia, given the news and our lead story, i'd like to begin with you by asking you, why did this case result in an acquittal? >> it resulted in acquittal for a couple of reasons and the most important ones frankly were the witnesses. one witness said he approached the defendant and pointed a gun and one witness reportedly went after mr. rittenhouse with a skateboard and another one supposedly grabbed his gun. that was enough that the prosecution could not overcome their burden of proof and when you add two other important thing, one is there really wasn't a good overarching theme in the case. i happen to personally have liked the closing statement. the problem is it disagreed with the opening statement and that's a big problem and then when you throw in a very confusing set of jury instructions, what you have is a reci

carol leonnig pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter for the washington post, coauthor with phil rucker of the new york times bestseller, i alone can fix it, and cynthia ochsner former federal prosecutor in the civil rights division of the department of justice. good evening, welcome to you all. cynthia, given the news, given our lead story tonight, i would like to begin with you by asking you why did this case result in an acquittal? >> it resulted in an acquittal for a couple of reasons. the most important one was frankly the witnesses. the one witness said he approached the defendant and he had a gun in his hand pointed it at him, one of the witness went after rittenhouse with a skateboard and another one grabbed his gun. that was enough that the prosecution could not overcome their burden of proof. when you add, to other important things, one there wasn't a good overarching theme in the case. i happen to personally have like closing statements, but it disagreed with the opening statement, that is a big problem. and then when you throw in a very confusing set of injury instructions,

. >> phil rucker, current president is overseas talking to world leaders talking about the environment. back here at home, senator manchin is talking to cameras. is there any reporting on what may be a vote in either or both houses of congress? >> you know, brian, i'm not sure when exactly that vote is going to happen. what we heard from manchin today, there's much less certainty about a deal than there seemed to be late last week when president biden departed for his overseas trip. it seems like we're going to have several days worth at least of negotiating continuing in order to secure the vote of joe manchin who, of course, has been one of the two democratic holdouts for months now contributing, as larry sabato just pointed out earlier, to some of the drag that terry mcauliffe is facing in this virginia gubernatorial race. and so biden's overseas. he of course wanted to be at that climate summit with the deliverable, with an action item, with a bill that was going to be coming to his desk ready to sign. that is of course more complicated in reality tonight than he might have anticip

multiple people told me and phil rucker, my colleague, partner, colleague on a book that we wrote about donald trump's final year, they said that pence was willing to try to find a way and everywhere he turned, constitutional scholars who were stalwarts and stars in the republican party told him, it's not possible. everyone from, you know, important appellate court judge, who was a supreme court justice nominee to dan quayle, sort of his mentor said, you can't do this. the certification is your job. this is the part of the election, and you can't change the rules because donald trump wants you to. >> ryan, it strikes me, republican congressman anthony gonzalez, we heard a little bit from him at the top, shared this warning about trump's plans for 2024. take a listen. >> he has evaluated what went wrong on january 6th, why is it that he wasn't able to steal the election, who stood in his way. he's going systemically through the country and trying to remove those people and install people who are going to do exactly what he wants him to do, who believe the big lie, who will go along with

carol leonnig, pulitzer prize winning investigative reporter, co-author along with phil rucker who takesthe air time, author of "i alone can fix it." and barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, worked with the doj during the biden transition. notably is a professor at her alma mater university of michigan law school. also notably co-host of the podcast sisters in law" along with our friends. good evening to you all. counsellor, i'm duty bound to begin with you. about the legal headlines tonight, is the bigger news this round of subpoenas or is the bigger news a federal judge who says open the door of the archives and let the sunlight in? >> i think it has to be the judge's order. certainly we could anticipate that the congressional committee would be seeking some of the subpoenas. maybe we didn't know the names, but this order is significant. i think many of us anticipated that donald trump would do everything in his power to stall and delay the turning over of these documents, but at the end of the day he made it very clear he's no longer president, a

joining us now, phil rucker, senior washington correspondent for the "washington post" and co-authorso we took it live. it's not on the same plane. when i started politics, republicans were out pushing for california, reduction in the car tax while democrats were pushing for, i don't know, more social safety nets. but we're now at the point where republicans are trying to figure out how to punish for those who voted for the infrastructure while democrats are out telling people what's in the legislation. it's two different universes. >> it is and on the point on infrastructure, keep in mind that former president trump prioritized infrastructure and very much would have liked to have passed the bill that biden signed into law. so the fact the republican party is trying to punish some of its members for voting for that law is pretty ironic. but on congressman gosar, i think the fact that that animated video even exists to begin with let alone that it was shared on social media by a sitting member of congress speaks to how toxic and polarized our politics have become and especially the p

phil rucker and i also interviewed donald trump and we're sort of gob-smacked by what he claimed to beernate reality, but here now the president has, indeed, moved quite a bit, and i don't think we're going to hear mitch mcconnell say he's outraged. i don't think we're going to hear that fund-raisers have been canceled. i don't think we're going to hear that people are very disturbed that mark meadows and steve bannon are still stalling on cooperating with the rule of law. it is sort of a -- the quicksand almost gets muddier and thinner and more and more sinking is occurring rather than anyone rising and saying, wait a minute. i came to this place to serve. i came to this place to give something back to the country, and give something to the people and lead them, rather than just get re-elected, which sometimes feels like what most of these people are worrying about, and it's certainly what they're privately confiding. >> also today, today, defined by one steve bannon. a pardoned individual, who bilked money from donald trump's basiest base folks. folks who wanted to build a wall and w

. >> philip rucker, like you i focused on yamiche alcindor singling out the thanksgiving dinners, and we're going to look about the under winnings of her reasoning. there but phil, while i have yet to another point that yamiche made, this uptake in cases. give me the level of concern in the biden camp about this pandemic that we cannot seem to stamp out. >> brian there is certainly concern in the white house, but also throughout the federal government with the various covid officials who now for nearly two years have been trying to protect americans and try to get rid of this virus that is simply not going away. here in washington, today, it was a big day. it was the first day that the mayor's order mandates wearing mask instead of businesses, instead of restaurants, that mandate has been lifted as of today. and of course coincides with what we are seeing in the rising cases around the country. and so there is actual concern here in washington that the lifting of the mask mandate may not last very long. if these cases continue to, like we may be back to wearing more mask and further shut down. it is just a problem that continues to persist in its political head