the international legal scholar philip alston spent 12 days touring the united states he is the u.n. rapporteur investigating thon human rights and joins me now from geneva. welcome to the program. >> thank you. >> can i ask you to just react to the conversation we've just been living to about what could happen to further exacerbate you know, financial worries for the average american, if, indeed, these measures in the trade debacle heat up? >> i think what's interesting to me is there's a certain consistency in the policy approach. what the president seems to be trying to do is to reward allies in the coal, cars, steel, aluminum, very other industries who will benefit immediately and greatly from these tariffs. the people who will lose the great bulk of consumers. those who rely on cheap goods from overseas, but that doesn't seem to be a problem. it's more a question of rewarding the wealthy and the supporters than of improving the lot of the average person. >> so let's talk about the average person, not only the trump voters. those actually living in much reduced circumstances. wha