i can speak now to philip ingram he's a former senior military intelligence and security officer verygood evening to you philip this new weaponry that it's astounded a few people maybe not surprising for people in the know though what was your reaction when you heard this. my reaction was twofold one loves i was expecting that we've got the russian president presidential elections coming up very soon and mr putin is appealing oh to the domestic audience to show how strong russia is only global defense field but we put this into context and you're russian minister defense spending what forty six billion dollars a year on defense the u.k. spending about sixty billion the u.s. is spending about seven hundred billion so you know it's nothing that people should be overly concerned about so will they so will if not have an effect upon how other countries are approaching their national defense and their missile systems. it will present very very clever indeed you know he's not only reaching out to domestic audience to try and show host strong russia is a lot is increasingly strong in the glo

philip ingram, former senior intelligence officer in the british army. salisbury outside the district hospital. what is the latest? there seems to be a flurry of activity now. we are getting the first glimpse of the military presence here. you may not see behind me in the distance with the flashing lights, there is a military vehicle parked with its lights on. this is where sergei skripal and his daughter yulia are being treated. there is another military vehicle down there. they look like they are preparing to load something quite substantial from those trucks. it is not yet clear what they are. the military vehicles are here to help recover objects, to help recover vehicles to assist the investigation. we have not yet seen what they are recovering but this is the first sign that the military are present here at the district hospital. a couple of men in uniforms walking around the car park. those military vehicles in the distance preparing to load. separately, there is some separate activity going on, we understand, at the graveyard nearby. this is wher

scientists today investigate i'm joined now by philip ingram a twenty seven year veteran of the u.k. army intelligence corps worked in iraq northern ireland and yugoslavia philip thanks for coming on just before we get on to the atrocity in wilcher why you appearing on the this kremlin controlled network that two resumes countenance will handing off been given new editorial direction as to what it is and to say or not to say so you know i believe in free speech and you're giving me free speech so we'll get the message out well let. get this you believe the prime minister which says the only credible explanation it went from highly likely to credible explanation to plausible is that russia is responsible for the attempted murder of the scribbles i do. do for a number of reasons but you you mentioned just before i came on about other countries that there's been reports that they produce no beatup style agents nobody talks for a group there are so many different chemicals that could fall within the group and as a group but the international community knew very very little about it rememb

scientists today investigate i'm joined now by philip ingram a twenty seven year veteran of the u.k. army intelligence corps worked in iraq northern ireland and yugoslavia philip thanks for coming on just before we get on to the atrocity in wilcher why you appearing on the this kremlin controlled network that to resume is counted and will handing off been given the editorial direction as to what it is and to say or not to say so you know i believe in free speech and you're giving me free speech so we'll get the message out well let. get this you believe the prime minister which says the only credible explanation it went from highly likely to credible explanation to plausible is that russia is responsible for the attempted murder of the scruples i do. do for a number of reasons but you you mentioned just before i came on about other countries that there's been reports that they produce no study agents or talks for a group there are so many different chemicals that could fall within that group and as a group the international community knew very very little about it remember the o.p.c.

scientists today investigate i'm joined now by philip ingram a twenty seven year veteran of the u.k. army intelligence corps worked in iraq northern ireland and yugoslavia philip thanks for coming on just before we get on to the atrocity in wilcher why you appearing on the this kremlin controlled network that two resumes countenance well handing off been given new editorial direction as to what it is and to say or not to say so you know i believe in free speech and you're giving me free speech so we'll get the message out well. get this you believe the prime minister which is the only credible explanation it went from highly likely to credible explanation to plausible is that russia is responsible for the attempted murder of the scribbles i do. do for a number of reasons but you you mentioned just before i came on about other countries that there's been reports that they produce no be top style agents nobody talks for a group there are so many different chemicals that could fall within the group and as a group the international community knew very very little about it remember the o.p

ok let's discuss this story now with her a guest philip ingram joins you on the line he's a former u.k. teligent security officer and he's also studied chemical warfare which is very appropriate for this story a good evening to philip so this is leaving this nerve agent developed in the soviet union as i was just mentioning it's not a secret formula i mean could anybody create this is it's still very limited in terms of who have the capability you know it's very difficult to develop this you know it's not a gas people talk to it is a gas it's. very persistent nerve agent source is quite thick liquid almost of the consistency of treacle and it's been designed as an area where and i saw that in military terms if someone goes into an area contaminated by it it will very quickly become a casualty it will not kill him that quickly but it's designed to overload the logistic network of casualty evacuation and then the hospital network of trying to deal with mass casualties that are going through and there are very very few lavoro trees around the world that have got the sophistication to deve