guest is philip mudd, who served as former deputy director of the cia and fbi. there was this tweet, "what percentage of weapons in the hands of aqap come from the u.s.?" know the answer to that. i suspect quite a few. the different -- the distribution of weapons among the you many -- the yemeni populace is among the highest in the world. i don't think it is a critical problem in the war on terror. i know that is a remarkable statement. the new look at the characteristics of the threat i witnessed -- when you look at the characteristics of the threat i witnessed, in the fbi we met with director mueller in the morning. you go through thousands of threats. that is money, recruits, false facilitation, how you get people inside and outside countries, weapons and explosives. should be fighting to prevent the proliferation of some of those issues. there are two things that count. does an organization have a stable enough leadership that it is a terror organization where that leadership can plan over the course of months and years sophisticated operations against the w

host: philip mudd in new york city. caller: i would like to talk a third way. said it was go or no go. it seemed like the cia knows everything about everybody. you knew that tsarnaev brothers were in chechnya. the international security agencies know who is going to these countries. why can't we stop them from coming back? guest: let me give you a contrast. periodically americans -- think of it as an iceberg. see the tip of the iceberg as a plot. we've seen plots in texas succeed. the tragedy of major net office on -- major nidal hasan. you take the plot and build it out and say it looks like the elements are so evident that all these super security agencies, cia, and ei, nsa, why can't you see that -- cia, fbi, nsa, why can't you see that? we were dealing with a triage of plots. all of them have pieces of puzzles that are unclear. none of those puzzles make sense. you are taking a triage, a flood of data on 10, 50 100 plots at once. you're stopping 99.5% of those plots based on data that don't match up. periodically, one of those plots gets to the tip of the i

. >> philip mudd, we are aware of the video because al qaeda wanted us to see the video. read the tea leaves for me. why is that the case? >> i think you are looking at the evolution of an al qaeda organization under a lot of pressure in pakistan. they turned to groups in places like mali and somali and yemen to carry the torch. what they want to do is a the movement is still alive and kicking even if people in pakistan are dying in the war. >> phil, what do you mean to say when you quote, lead the cross. >> let me put it in context. most of the al qaeda movements around the world struggle to get on the stage. they have fighters interested in local targets and local governments and local military forces. you need visionary leadership like yemen to raise the horizon to say the fighter is the real enemy is not here. it is foreign. it is new york and washington. the way to do that is a go after the cross. >> one point of washington okay the hit list, i walked in central park last night because i was customrious in the video coming to light. what is the concern of the terror

former fbi and cia deputy director philip mudd talks about the recent drone strikes that killed dozens of al qaeda .embers we will be looking for your calls and you can join the conversation of facebook and twitter. "washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. on c-span. i remember the first conversation i had wasn't about where you're from or what your school is like but it was about ukraine. it was about politics and our believes on education and religion. that, i was like, wow, this week will be intense. it was cool to see the evolution of all our friendships and our bonds just from talking about politics. ribbon talking about our experiences and what we have learned in who we have met. this is an experience i will never forget. i can never really go that far in politics and politics is such a caustic environment. but throughout the week different speakers and people i've met have chipped away at that opinion. i thought maybe i do want to make a difference and run for something local and state local , because likey president obama said yesterday, he said don't get cynical. this nation do

editor-in-chief of cns news.com, will also be looking ahead to director philip mudd, of counterterrorism, will join us to talk about some anti-terrorism issues post up that is it for today's show. hope you have a great saturday. we will see you back here tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern, 4:00 a.m. pacific. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> next, a debate about the genetically modified foods. the director of the white house let him initiative to fight childhood obesity. then a house hearing on airport safety. the a debate about the safety of genetically modified foods with jeffrey smith. this is two hours. >> jeffrey smith is a national best-selling author and film maker. he is the executive director for the institute of responsible technology. his book includes seeds of deception come exposing industry and government lies about the safety of genetically engineered food you're eating, which is the best bestseller on gm owes -- on gmo's. gregory stock, to my immediate left, dr. gregory stock is a biotech

also, terry jeffrey, the editor-in-chief of cns news.com, will also be looking ahead to director philip mudd counterterrorism, will join us to talk about some anti-terrorism issues post up that is it for today's show. hope you have a great saturday. we will see you back here tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern, 4:00 a.m. pacific. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> next, a debate about the genetically