now for more on this i'm joined by philip yvette in south africa philip nice to have you on the show what's behind these the lace we're not quite sure until quite recently the government position was and the the health minister literally tweeted this was that vaccines on a silver bullets and that there are non pharmaceutical interventions that are perhaps more important and he was very quickly taken to task by the medical community who said that's exactly what a vaccine is it is a sole bullet that's exactly what we need since then since then it was so we've seen a press conference where the government was talking about everything that it's doing and the messaging is definitely changed towards one that says we are working hard to land a vaccine but with no tangible plan and i think that's we must show of the frustration comes in there are no timelines there are no details of discussions they no details of funding is simply this message that says hang in there we will manage to find some of these vaccines doses now even the plans to rely on the kovacs facility haven't gone without a hi

now for more on this i'm joined by philip yvette in south africa philip nice to have you on the show what's behind these the lace we're not quite sure until quite recently the government position was and the the health minister literally tweeted this was that vaccines on silver bullets and that there are non-pharmaceutical interventions that are perhaps more important and he was very quickly taken to task by the medical community who said that's exactly what a vaccine is it is a small bullet that's exactly what we need since then since then it was so we've seen a press conference where the government was talking about everything that it's doing and the messaging is definitely changed towards one that says we are working hard to land a vaccine but with no tangible plan and i think that's we must shift the frustration comes in there are no timelines there are no details of discussions they no details of funding they simply this message that says hang in name we will manage to find some of these vaccine doses now even the plans to rely on the kovacs facility haven't gone without a hitch