it is only recently that we have learned that actually, philip zimbardo specifically instructed the guardsuards said, i do not want to do that, that is not who i am. then he said, look, you are these 60s hippies, liberals, right? you want to reform the prison system in america as well, come on, i need these results, i need you to behave in a horrible way, then we can go to the press and say, look, this is what prisons do to people. and so some of them went along this became a huge story and it is still in the textbooks of millions students, while in reality it's pretty much a hoax. and i do find that fascinating and you have done a lot of work to debunk some of those theories but your big problem, it seems to me, is that, while you might be able to debunk the 60s work which sort of attempted to say there is a quasi nazi mentality within all of us, what you can't debunk, because it is just factual, is nazism, genocide, and the holocaust itself, and not even just the german holocaust, but the genocides we have seen in more recent times, from rwanda to the ethnic cleansing in the balkans and