. >> host: phillip bumps donald trump is dirty cycle that mitt romney's speech today do you think it cuts both ways? do you represents the establishment and donald trump is everything about the anti-establishment establishment. >> i think there is definitely a case to be made in that regard. when you think about for months and months the establishment had a candidate and was jeb bush. jeb bush was their guy. he was the moderate voice. he had the bush family and his legacy. donald trump used him as a punching bag for months, to. >> up on them even went jeb bush was at 3% oppose donald trump would beat on him because he was the establishment. he was using jeb bush in that posture. jeb bush dropped out of mitt romney off a sudden steps into that role. he is now the establishment. he is donald trump foiled so it offers going to gain more people but allows them to make the same point over and over the establishment doesn't like me and i may be done. >> host: wasn't a smart move by the 2012 republican nominee to deliver this speech? >> guest: honestly i don't know, i don't think it did a wh

joining me is maeve reston and phillip bump. donald trump can get to that number of 1,237 delegates. california is key. can he win california? >> he can but if you win california, you only get 13 delegates. it's going to be fought up and down the state in each of three congressional districts. he has to win seven more congress an districts, could be any more in the state, could be a late night watching returns. >> so he can but it going to be tough? >> it's going to be tough no matter what. >> religious leaders and conservatives gathered to plot a strategy to stop donald trump. what's the most realistic path in your mind? >> i think the question here is whether or not donald trump can win this outright, as we all were just saying, whether ted cruz still can. he's got a very tough path to did that. it is looking increasingly more and more like we are going to so a contested convention because you have all of this anti-trump money consolidating with the ads that we saw before super tuesday earlier this week and now the conservative gathering t