he is phillip holloway. phillip, great to have you on.ty supports defunding the police. what did you think of that? >> thanks for having me, liz. it is just not truthful and honest to say this government, and i'm not talking about just the administration, the government at all levels, from mayors on up through congress and even up into the white house, these people, by and large are in fact anti-police. okay? they just are. not all of them of course but every officer that i speak to, certainly some of the ones that i have represented, they see it when the police chief wants to throw them under the bus and sacrifice them on the altar of political expediency. they recognize it when the district attorney wants to prosecute them for simply doing their job. they certainly see it when politicians, elected officials of all stripes go on national television and say, defund the police a year ago when it was politically expedient to do so, come out in today's day and age, say no, no, that is not what i said. we've got it on tape. we got the sound.