center and the community development center and hunter point family and collective impact and a phillip randolph institute we're not saying stop funding we're saying cut back and explore other sources for these policy expenditures the public simply doesn't know that the size and scope and number and the aggregate cost of all of these programs that are coming under -- that they are paying for in their rate payer rates and the cost of these programs. >> so i'm just taking a look here and i'd like to go on record and perhaps there is more outreach that we could do to let the public and rate payers and what the nature of them are. >> uh-huh. >> i'm familiar with several of these and i'm quite supportive of these projects because i know they are in the community doing very important work and that we as a commission adopted a community benefits policy directly to fund and support these community based groups working in the community to help develop jobs and for career training. >> we understand that. and we're just questioning the source of the funding based on the puc rather than from the general fun

. >> good afternoon, my name is jackie flynn, i am the executive director of the a phillip randolph institute san francisco. we serve residents, san francisco residents, that are directly impacted by planning, development and recommendations given by the citizens committee on community development. and i feel that we need community advocates that have experience serving low income neighborhoods, under employed and unemployed residents here in san francisco in order to keep our families here. i am here on behalf of my organization to support both eddie ahn and miguel penn for their appointments to the ccc i feel they will continue to serve our communities impabting hundreds of families in need. thank you. >> good afternoon, my name is jackie chen. we strongly support miguel penn for a seat on the citizen's committee on work force development. as a dedicated professional he has developed work force strategies and work with various employers to create job opportunities to keep san franciscoans working. through this work he has shown himself to be a community advocate on the community to a range

phillip randolph, who was a moving force and actually was the head of the white house civil rights conferencet i ran for the president in 1966. those are the people along with many white people, along with men and women of character, who stood up for the rights of black people in particular in the civil rights act was passed. >> and a final thought and question is, if we did the same anniversary for the voting rights act, i wonder whether we could have as many leaders from both parties there. because the republicans won't even hold a vote on the simple bill from louis and sensenbrenner to renew parts of the acts that were overruled in the shelby act last year? >> well, i think, unfortunately, that's the truth. we do have to get passionate and we do have to stop thinking that somehow they're going to talk to us. we do have to continue to be critical of them. but we obviously also have to sit with those who we are critical of. president johnson, i was with him when he nominated thurgood marshall. he told them that he was going to nominate him. and he said, after he finished his monologue, he hu

when phillip randolph initiated the march, there was opposition from civil rights groups. only after birmingham that you got momentum behind this. to pass legislation, it helps to have a gigantic social movement first and hard to do it without it. >> woodruff: out in the country. >> walter of the united workers was the organizer, architect and producer of that. but it was trance formational, the civil rights act. i was there the night it passed the senate in 1964. >> woodruff: you were there in the -- >> i was. 1965, way down the predicate, it changed, judy, that an african-american family could go into mcdonald's and buy a hot dog or hamburger or whatever. it was federal law that there was discrimination in movie theaters and bus stations, in transportation, in hotels, motels. that changed. but 65 was the key. that was the voting. >> woodruff: the voting. that was actual power at the polling place, and to me that was the key. without '64, you would never get to '65. and lyndon johnson was central. he was dominant, make no mistake about it. he was a man like all of us with