center and the community development center and hunter point family and collective impact and a phillip randolph institute we're not saying stop funding we're saying cut back and explore other sources for these policy expenditures the public simply doesn't know that the size and scope and number and the aggregate cost of all of these programs that are coming under -- that they are paying for in their rate payer rates and the cost of these programs. >> so i'm just taking a look here and i'd like to go on record and perhaps there is more outreach that we could do to let the public and rate payers and what the nature of them are. >> uh-huh. >> i'm familiar with several of these and i'm quite supportive of these projects because i know they are in the community doing very important work and that we as a commission adopted a community benefits policy directly to fund and support these community based groups working in the community to help develop jobs and for career training. >> we understand that. and we're just questioning the source of the funding based on the puc rather than from the general fun

phillip randolph and dorothy and you will see jack greenberg, and jack greenberg was noticeable. i had the privilege along with another recovering lawyer i think i could describe him as, he has been busy with other things, who is here today, governor patrick, of being i think one of the last two -- i think we were the last two hired at the legal defense fund. i can't say and won't say it's not my place to say how good my hire was. i will say that he made a great hire in governor patrick. and i remember when i was hired, elaine, you know how jack was. i came to ldf from -- i was trying to get out of the justice department, the administrations had changed, i was now in the reagan administration. so i came up to new york at jack's behest for an interview. and some of the lawyers were unhappy because jack made this decision by himself. you know, he decided who was going to be hired. and some of the lawyers were fussing about not having a role in that. and jack said, another lesson that i learned that i used later, not as well as jack perhaps. jack said in a very offhanded way again,

phillip rand awful and dorothy in -- randolph and you will see jack greenberg was oticeable. i had the privilege along with lawyer i covering think i could describe him as, he has been busy with other things, who is here today, governor patrick, of being i think one of the last two -- i think we were the last two hired at the legal defense fund. i can't say and won't say it's not my place to say how good my hire was. i will say that he made a great hire in governor patrick. and i remember when i was hired, elaine, you know how jack was. i came to ldf from -- i was trying to get out of the justice department, the administrations had changed, i was now in the reagan administration. so i came up to new york at jack's behest for an interview. and some of the lawyers were unhappy because jack made this decision by himself. you know, he decided who was going to be hired. and some of the lawyers were fussing about not having a role in that. and jack said, another lesson that i learned that i used later, not as well as jack perhaps. jack said in a very offhanded way again, i think de