you know, a bit of controversy, but he's phillip schofield.ontroversial i do, i do from a just from a human perspective of what he did was, you know, morally and societally not right. >> of course we get it. but from a human perspective, just looking at someone's downfall like that, i do have some sympathy for him. yeah. you know, i'm not saying he should be back on our tvs , but just, be back on our tvs, but just, you know, it's not nice seeing the real life , termination of the real life, termination of somebody's career. >> i completely i don't agree with cancelling anybody, frankly, but i think what the circumstances that followed his resignation were because he was deceitful and rather than him, you know, as joanna said, pretending to be this lovely, friendly, welcoming person, that's not the reality of who he was . and i think people want to was. and i think people want to watch people on tv and just see the true character and not this deceitful. >> maybe i'm hard hearted. i don't feel that sorry for him. i mean, he had a very long, very