sorkin wrote a fascinating piece in which he said about addiction, he had a conversation with phipil seymour hoffman who said when we die, that's going to save ten people from dying from addiction. but by covering this, by covering this tragedy, we are bringing to light tissue of -- >> but i have a problem with that argument. the "new york times" a day or two after the death has a front page story, hoffman's heroine points to grim trade. 67% seizures in four years. why does it take a celebrity's death to -- >> hello, this is a celebrity driven culture. we are driven by the fact that our celebrities do something. that gets the most coverage. miley cyrus makes news more than the president makes news. >> journalists need to grow up. they don't need miley cyrus and the philip seymour hoffman's funeral. they need to report, go after facts, stop retweeting and repeating -- >> but they are. they do. >> -- factual work. >> i'm not defending journalists here, but the american culture is a celebrity driven culture. people do pay attention to this rightly or wrongly. i think this large part wrongly. and there'