another type of attack we have seen in some places in the country, not in connecticut, are phishing emails. we are all familiar with those. a message that looks valid and , but if you go on it, they can get into our system. those are the kinds of things we are focusing on with our money. we are hiring personnel to go into the towns to check their systems, give training, and that sort of thing. we are also purchasing extra tabulators. in 2002lators we bought with the help america vote money are somewhat elderly, but they are also simple scanners. they are not connected to the internet. they are not connected to each other. i want to make sure people understand that. we vote on paper ballots. we audit the ballots afterwards. the tabulators have little cards in them that program the ballots. we want to make sure everything is working properly and up-to-date so we are purchasing extra tabulators with some of the money in case some of them give out during or after the election. we will have some extras on hand. host: as we turn to a discussion with secretary paul pate, who supervises the mr. se

story, which is how hackers can use this information to then individually target folks for spear phishing emailsbsequent operations down the line. its not just a compromise of a single identifier, obviously, the deterioration of unique identifiers, such as the social security number and passport numbers is a problem, but its piecing together multiple identities. >> what does it tell you, dave, that this went on for four years? 48 months either without marriott knowing or without marriott doing anything. >> it tells you that you have a pretty sophisticated actor here and its unclear at this point if this activity is linked as kate said to the activity that was reported before the merger involving just starwood. so more details will likely emerge, but persistence is a major indicator of sophistication, right? most of the time when we talk about advanced persistent threats we're talking about nation states but given the types of data that were caught up -- >> this data could be on the darkweb right now up for sale for all we know. kate, when analysts come out and say the impact on the company is ma