for phoebe and her family that you are somewhat contradictory and partly because phoebe, who was proud and private, appears to have clung to her old habits of keeping quiet about her troubles. that is really beautiful. you discovered in one of the marriages actually, and i believe it was fraser leaves the family, goes off to war and what does he write? what does he say to the army? >> he, fraser, came from south carolina, the golden boy of his small-town and goes off to chicago to the big time and lands in the depression and couldn't find work of any kind. struggled, struggle struggle. got married, had two children and things fell apart. he left his family, and listed and the paperwork reads from his unless meant papers, described his marital status separated, no dependents and he had children. >> i will under what you felt like in that moment as a researcher when he saw that? that would have been hard to share with the descendents. >> it was hard to share with the descendents, yeah. >> heel to metlay went back home. >> he ultimately went back home and he rejoined his family as if he h