there are commercial cleaners labeled voc free, phosphate free.are better on our health and the environment. they are good options. in the kitchen, we have lemon juice, white vinegar, baking soda. you can make cleaning products out of these. >> what about dish washing soap. i was surprised. you say it may not be a good idea. >> the antibacterial soaps are developed to kill germs in a hospital setting, not a home setting. they do it with a chemical. >> that's right. >> bacteria are becoming resist tent to it. the more we use these products, the less they work. frankly, the stronger the germs become. in your household, you are fine using regular soap and water. studies show and doctors agree, it's just as safe and kills germs as effectively at home as antibacteria antibacterial. it can be a public health problem, exactly. >> can fruits and vegetables, things like that develop because they are so easy to use, people like it because of that? what about the canned foods? >> vegetables in soups in particular, they are in a plastic called bpa. it's a cla