i spoke to scientists there where they are working on this artificial photosynthesis and i hung out withm and i wanted to know about the jealousies of science. while this was all happening, the u.b.a. stuff -- it didn't surprise me and shock me as much as it shocked others. in fact, their crimes were fairly small. trying to stop a paper being published by a rival. well, the paper was published anyway. extrapolating a bit of data. it is a standard technique. you extrapolate the curve. not quite as great a sin as people made out but still, it is important to now and then to, you know, wear out some shoe leather just to find out what's necessary. tavis: for you, finally here, when the subject matter is so serious, like climate change, you fictionalized this. is there a message that you want to empower readers with or is this purely entertainment? >> no, i think it is more than entertainment although i hope that it will entertain a reader. tavis: it is not proselytizing, though? >> no. fiction has to have the life blood running through it of the real world and none of your intentions. i woul

iraq and the reason we carry-- care about the syrians there were the first to capture the sun photosynthesis the stored grain into energy to build population and the urban environment. they were the first to create high end hydro agriculture this was very complicated before that time people lived in small villages was small garden agriculture zero 1/7 for the first time thousands and thousands of men taken out of the villages and put to the task of building irrigation canals then they said of specialized craft skills to make the dikes to put together a good distribution system and create urban life this was so complicated hydraulic agriculture they had to have a new communication revolution to communicate if they invented writing. everywhere they were created in the middle east, the yanks the river in china and in mexico is fascinating independently human beings figure out some form of writing to manage stored grain with communication energy proposed with me. 19th century. another convergence of communication and energy the print press has been around and the chinese had it been in the 19th

artificial photosynthesis is a concern around the world. i fwont-to-a lab in golden, colorado, the national renewable energy lab and there professor john turner showed me the cutting edge of this process which still exists on the lab bench. it's a long, long way from being scaled up. but if we could turn water into hydrogen or oxygen cheaply, virtually for nothing, then we would have virtually free energy. >> rose: now who what is it that you have to do as a novelist to make sure? because you have said the best way to tell the story of climate change if you want to make a case, if you have an argument to make is not in a novel's form but is also in non-fiction. you made that point. >> i don't think that i could make it my aim to beat the reader around the head with a moral case about climate change because i think the place far is the monograph of the non-fiction book. what i can show, i hope... >> rose: al gore. >> yes. you can... there are clearly ways of doing this in reportage and argument. what the novel these do, i think, is investiga

you under the sun, will feelings on resources such as energy, water, seafood, and botha said -- photosynthesisthe third thing is that is nearly impossible to maintain any quality around coral in per- capita consumption. that is something i will talk about more. finally, we at last have -- all these problems are going to have to give solve within the next 50 years, because we are sitting on a series of time bombs such as energy, water, and climate. these are time bombs involving limited resources or resources that are being exploited and will run out in the next several decades if we did not change our direction. either we will solve these problems pleasantly in ways we choose, or they will resolve themselves unpleasantly, in ways we do not choose. what innovations do we need to solve these problems? past societies have also faced challenges. individuals, tribes, companies also face challenges. i see a broad framework for all these levels. successes endeavors of individuals, tribes, and companies. let's start with the simplest case, namely challenges individuals. we faced personal challenges an

another thing new is global feelings on resources, resources such as energy, water, seafood, photosynthesis which are under pressure around the world. the third thing new under the sun is that it is now impossible to maintain inequality around the world in per-capita consumption rates. that is something i will talk about more. finally, new under the sun is that we at last have a time limit. all these problems will have to get solved within approximately the next 50 years because we are sitting on a series of time bombs such as energy, water, and climate. these are time bombs involving limited resources or resources that are being exploited which could run out over the next course of the next couple of decades if we do not change our direction. either we will solve these problems in the next couple of decades pleasantly or they will resolve themselves unpleasantly of ways that we do not choose. what innovations do we need to solve these problems? it is not only societies and is that those problems but individuals, companies face challenges. i see a broad framework for innovation at all these