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this is erin. >> phyllis, the girlfriend doesn't show up. she apparently had to work.orgia male yes does. and he's now in our house and in hot pursuit of our decoy. >> can i give you a hug? >> have a seat. >> as the decoy walks behind the curtain, the man sees our camera crew and runs. >> he saw ron. he's coming out. he's coming out. >> and he keeps on running, even after sheriff's deputies order him to stop. >> get down! >> get down. >> finally, an officer's taser knocks him to the ground. after here's arrested, he's taken in for questioning. this man with the incredibly vulgar chat reveals something that ironically no longer surprises us. >> i was a minister in the church. >> what church you go to? >> baptist church. i don't want to go to prison. >> it also turns out he's married and worried about his wife finding out. >> mr. gary. >> yes, what is it? >> i'm gonna lose everything i got. >> do what? >> i'm going to lose everything i have, mr. gary. >> the 35-year-old asks to speak to a lawyer. and the interview is over. he's then taken to the county jail, fingerprinte
this is erin. >> phyllis, the girlfriend doesn't show up. she apparently had to work.orgia male yes does. and he's now in our house and in hot pursuit of our decoy. >> can i give you a hug? >> have a seat. >> as the decoy walks behind the curtain, the man sees our camera crew and runs. >> he saw ron. he's coming out. he's coming out. >> and he keeps on running, even after sheriff's deputies order him to stop. >> get down! >> get down. >>...
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now and speak to phyllis bennis she's the director of the institute for policy studies in washington for us thanks very much indeed for joining us well the house has just voted on a bill to cut funding for this operation in libya right after refusing to approve u.s. military action there some real mixed messages coming out of washington tonight can you explain what's going on. well it's a lot of mixed messages as you say both of these votes were really symbolic the vote would have been very significant if the house had voted to cut off funds but even that would not have had any direct impact on the ground because of course the senate when they did buy president obama's own democratic party would never have approved that one earlier vote was in some ways more interesting the vote that refused to endorse or give permission to the commander in chief president obama to continue the war in libya and what we were seeing here was actually a coming together of three or more different forces there were republican forces who will vote against president obama for anything just for partisan poli
now and speak to phyllis bennis she's the director of the institute for policy studies in washington for us thanks very much indeed for joining us well the house has just voted on a bill to cut funding for this operation in libya right after refusing to approve u.s. military action there some real mixed messages coming out of washington tonight can you explain what's going on. well it's a lot of mixed messages as you say both of these votes were really symbolic the vote would have been very...
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phyllis gates is coming, rock hudson's wife. sits down. how did you meet rock? >> i was a secretary for his agent an we dated and got married. >> what happened? didn't work out. we got divorced. did you have any idea that he was gay? >> no. when you found out he had aids, did you call him? no. i started at 9:00. it's three minutes after 9:00. i got nowhere to go. what movies did you like of his? so you learn never to overpromote. but if we have jon stewart, all day long. >> jon: you send stuff also to copenhagen, oslo. you know this thing is going international. now, is it the type of thing now, why not come back and do once a week? why not come back and... >> i'm doing four specials a year. and we're going to do other things. i'm going to do... i can't not, not do things. >> jon: you have more energy than ten people i know. it's unbelievable. >> i just have a lot of stamp nap. i just... [laughter] [cheers and applause] , no i've got to be honest. >> jon: did you figure out by wife six you had a lot of stamina? what did you figure? >> my wife and i have never do
phyllis gates is coming, rock hudson's wife. sits down. how did you meet rock? >> i was a secretary for his agent an we dated and got married. >> what happened? didn't work out. we got divorced. did you have any idea that he was gay? >> no. when you found out he had aids, did you call him? no. i started at 9:00. it's three minutes after 9:00. i got nowhere to go. what movies did you like of his? so you learn never to overpromote. but if we have jon stewart, all day long....
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phyllis bennis is a fellow at the institute for policy studies, and author of "ending the u.s. war in afghanistan: a primer." and brian katoolis is a senior fellow at the center for american progress, where he analyzes u.s. foreign policy in the middle east and south asia. >> i want to start with you john nagl. what do you want to hear from the president tomorrow in terms of immediate reductions. >> i actually think the most important thing the president can say is it has long term secure interests in afghanistan and in the region and that we are going to be committed with troops for a number of years to come. >> a number of years. >> for a number of years. in fact it's actually more important than even the pace of this draw down as important as that is. >> all right. ms. bennis what do you want to hear. >> i want to hear our security interests did not involve hundreds of thousands of troops and contractors there, that the president has listened to the 64% of the american people who say that the war is not worth fighting and we should get out right away. that means as long as i
phyllis bennis is a fellow at the institute for policy studies, and author of "ending the u.s. war in afghanistan: a primer." and brian katoolis is a senior fellow at the center for american progress, where he analyzes u.s. foreign policy in the middle east and south asia. >> i want to start with you john nagl. what do you want to hear from the president tomorrow in terms of immediate reductions. >> i actually think the most important thing the president can say is it has...
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when the quake struck there were people in every apartment of a five story houses to the phyllis's here and both sides of the road the only bit of ditch you practically all of them fell a planted food dish only roost lying on the walls floors could be seen out of the quake of one. there is a church where our tours house once was more than twenty years on there are a few reminders of that devastating earthquake. but in the cold month of december one thousand nine hundred eighty eight people around the world came to know the name of this small town in armenia a began pouring in. from across the soviet union at that time armenia was part of it. the powerful earthquake a fake to wall of armenia's northern areas as well as attack. the scale of the disaster only became apparent after several days just a handful of people had survived on of the rubble the earthquake had claimed twenty five thousand lives. such as the church did or when the smoke cleared away three or four hours after the earthquake it became clear that the town had been razed to the ground where they'd begin arriving towards l
when the quake struck there were people in every apartment of a five story houses to the phyllis's here and both sides of the road the only bit of ditch you practically all of them fell a planted food dish only roost lying on the walls floors could be seen out of the quake of one. there is a church where our tours house once was more than twenty years on there are a few reminders of that devastating earthquake. but in the cold month of december one thousand nine hundred eighty eight people...
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regards to the war in libya inertia which some say could be very dangerous going to check on their will phyllis bennis from the institute for policy studies told me earlier that president obama's action goes against the american constitution earned public opinion both of these votes were really symbolic the vote would have been very significant if the house had voted to cut off funds but even that would not have had any direct impact on the ground because of course the senate dominated by president obama's own democratic party would never have approved that one the earlier vote was in some ways more interesting the vote that refused to endorse or give permission to the commander in chief president obama to continue the war in libya the law passed in one thousand seventy three at the height of vietnam requires the president to get congressional approval when he sends troops or military resources abroad within sixty days that sixty days has passed days ago and he has not asked for approval and this was a statement from the congress that they don't want to approve it that makes it a very illegal a
regards to the war in libya inertia which some say could be very dangerous going to check on their will phyllis bennis from the institute for policy studies told me earlier that president obama's action goes against the american constitution earned public opinion both of these votes were really symbolic the vote would have been very significant if the house had voted to cut off funds but even that would not have had any direct impact on the ground because of course the senate dominated by...
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>> no, let's go back to phyllis. you look great, phyllis.growing paparazzi paparazzi, getting more aggressive, the latest case, tori spelling had a run-in with a photographer she says caused a scary accident that could have been even worse. andrea canning has been tracking the latest on this hollywood showdown. good morning, andrea. >> good morning, george. and you know these pictures can bring in thousands of dollars so now tori spelling is opening up about the details of what she calls a big accident that occurred while she was on the run from a photographer. she calls the paparazzi the stalkarazzi and has said in the past she's worried about the safety of her family. her every move in public is caught on camera, but now tori spelling says the paparazzi have gone too far. >> big scare for tori spelling. >> yeah, well, you know she's pregnant. well today she crashed her car trying to outrun the paparazzi. >> so glad they're all okay. >> shaken up. everybody is okay. >> reporter: she was rushed to the doctor monday after crashing her car int
>> no, let's go back to phyllis. you look great, phyllis.growing paparazzi paparazzi, getting more aggressive, the latest case, tori spelling had a run-in with a photographer she says caused a scary accident that could have been even worse. andrea canning has been tracking the latest on this hollywood showdown. good morning, andrea. >> good morning, george. and you know these pictures can bring in thousands of dollars so now tori spelling is opening up about the details of what she...
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review should not exist it's not the constitution but that's you know that's that's where me and phyllis schlafly agree and we'll just you know but shouldn't you know let's assume tomorrow the. mccain feingold was back in place where the dead all across the nation states like laws like arizona had like maine had like portland oregon had where if you get enough signatures and if you can prove you know another you're improving. you have some basis since from support among the populace that federal funds or state funds are used to support your candidacy and and when somebody tries to outspend you because they happen to be a millionaire or a billionaire or they have buddies who are the state will to to level this but again what possibly could be. because it's not the government's role to try and establish a level playing field as the supreme court has said the idea that the government can try and hold down the speech of some in order to elevate the speech of others is wholly foreign to the first a member of the opposite of that is is. no not a lot certainly what you're what you're not seeing
review should not exist it's not the constitution but that's you know that's that's where me and phyllis schlafly agree and we'll just you know but shouldn't you know let's assume tomorrow the. mccain feingold was back in place where the dead all across the nation states like laws like arizona had like maine had like portland oregon had where if you get enough signatures and if you can prove you know another you're improving. you have some basis since from support among the populace that...
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i said, "well, tell me, phyllis, what's t urgency of the communication here?" >> hinojosa: yeah, what are you talking about that's so important? >> the trivialization in these electronic gadgets... that's why, you know, when you go to citizen meetings around the country, there's hardly anybody under 40. i mean, they're all elderly people. because they grow up with these electronic gadgets, virtual reality, looking at screens. you know a ten-year-old now, the average ten-year-old is watching screens seven and a half hours a day. that's the latest report. >> hinojosa: it feels a little bit like 1984, you know? kind of like, "okay, now you're all controlled, you're programmed." >> yeah. >> hinojosa: and then people are going to say, "no, that just sounds really, really strange. we're just regular folks trying to figure this out." i mean, big conspiracy here, or... on the part of corporations to... >> corporations, they just want to sell you stuff-- junk food, junk this, junk that, violent programming to the kids, undermining parental authority. parents are going u
i said, "well, tell me, phyllis, what's t urgency of the communication here?" >> hinojosa: yeah, what are you talking about that's so important? >> the trivialization in these electronic gadgets... that's why, you know, when you go to citizen meetings around the country, there's hardly anybody under 40. i mean, they're all elderly people. because they grow up with these electronic gadgets, virtual reality, looking at screens. you know a ten-year-old now, the average...
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gotten congress to authorize war in libya it would have been quite easily done he put it down if phyllis sixty days they have after he started the war he chose not to presidents want and this president is no exception but power to make wars on their own. time has passed they are now here in moscow with our say is a quick look at what's ahead for you this hour and what attracts a young woman to try her luck in the male dominated environment of the world's accomplished continent. a u.s. judge has called the case against alleged russian government a victory boot unconvincing and the prosecution's accusations as. after consulting defense and prosecution lawyers the manhattan federal judge said she didn't see much evidence against capote he is currently awaiting trial in a new york prison facing charges of smuggling arms to colombian rebels concessions that he denies who was arrested in two thousand and eight during an american sting operation in thailand and later extradited to the u.s. . america's top military commander says al qaeda is a new leader will be found and killed just like osama
gotten congress to authorize war in libya it would have been quite easily done he put it down if phyllis sixty days they have after he started the war he chose not to presidents want and this president is no exception but power to make wars on their own. time has passed they are now here in moscow with our say is a quick look at what's ahead for you this hour and what attracts a young woman to try her luck in the male dominated environment of the world's accomplished continent. a u.s. judge has...
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phyllis there's a short six we don't do anything to read during the crisis in this capital, large institutions that was easy to do, write a check, get the capitol in and it stabilized the system, but it didn't fix the longer-term problem. it's harder to go in and fix these mortgages and i think that is why we lack the political will if it is not right in scuffles and easy to do we are not going to get done. >> the new reference the greek crisis mr. bernanke was asked this week what is the risk to the banking system is indeed a sort of worst case scenario plays out and obviously this political process is yet to be resolved. what do you think the risk is to the banking system and then to the broader economy with respect to the greek situation? >> will begin, i think that is a problem that is solvable if europe has the political will to make the hard choices to stabilize the situation i think if it gets out of control there and here there's not a lot of terrific exposure, but certainly to the great debt to there's a lot of direct exposure to the banks obviously a lot of relationships in the banki
phyllis there's a short six we don't do anything to read during the crisis in this capital, large institutions that was easy to do, write a check, get the capitol in and it stabilized the system, but it didn't fix the longer-term problem. it's harder to go in and fix these mortgages and i think that is why we lack the political will if it is not right in scuffles and easy to do we are not going to get done. >> the new reference the greek crisis mr. bernanke was asked this week what is the...
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. >> and the wife's name was phyllis gates who recently passed away. to do one interview and it would be us and we made a mistake. we overpromoted. never overpromote. we went crazy. tonight, phyllis gates, rock hudson's wife. what has she got to tell us? tune in. you won't want to miss this. rock hudson divied of aids, but add wife. how did you meet? i was a secretary to rock's agent and he naturally visited his agent a lot and we went to a couple of movies and we liked each other and got married. was it a happy marriage? yes, but rock had had a lot of work to do we didn't have any children. after a year or so we parted. did you keep in touch with him? no. did you have any idea that he was gay? no. no further answer. >> and you are just -- just there hanging. >> call him when he had aids? >> no. >> oh, man. >> i look at the clock. >> you got a full hour. >> 58 minutes. >> what was his favorite film (oh, god. >> that was awful. never overpromote. >> what story, truth be told, what's one of your favorite stories in here that people are going to pick this
. >> and the wife's name was phyllis gates who recently passed away. to do one interview and it would be us and we made a mistake. we overpromoted. never overpromote. we went crazy. tonight, phyllis gates, rock hudson's wife. what has she got to tell us? tune in. you won't want to miss this. rock hudson divied of aids, but add wife. how did you meet? i was a secretary to rock's agent and he naturally visited his agent a lot and we went to a couple of movies and we liked each other and got...
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. >> phyllis smith, she is amazing. she's brilliant. we had so much fun., jason segel. >> i love your interaction with teacher. you bring up justin timberlake. you guys went out for a while. what was it like working together? >> justin and i are great friends. we love each other. we want the best things for one another. to do a comedy together, you know, was a blessing. it really is a privilege. you know, it's not lost on either one of us. we had the opportunity to do it together. we laughed the whole time. >> you said it was less awkward doing the movie. >> if it's somebody you don't know, maybe. you know know. >> exactly. >> he's so wonderful, so funny in this movie. we knew that he was going to do something great with the part. along with jason who's a marksman of comedy. everyone else in our cast, we feel really lucky because we have the highest ped degree of comedians in this comedy. it was a dream. the fact that i didn't have to redeem myself at the end it was easy. >> some really great questions that people sent in and wanted to ask you about. they'
. >> phyllis smith, she is amazing. she's brilliant. we had so much fun., jason segel. >> i love your interaction with teacher. you bring up justin timberlake. you guys went out for a while. what was it like working together? >> justin and i are great friends. we love each other. we want the best things for one another. to do a comedy together, you know, was a blessing. it really is a privilege. you know, it's not lost on either one of us. we had the opportunity to do it...
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phyllis moves to the frust sri lanka to take care of her three grandsons. being a good citizen, knowing our laws and speaking the language will help those young boys grow up to be strong citizens themselves. immigrant whors integrated into society go on to become entrepreneurs and job creators. whether they come on family or employment visas, through the asylum or refugee programs or other smaller immigration programs, legal permanent residents come to this country with the dream of becoming u.s. citizens and giving back to their adopted home. in the last two fiscal years, congress has directly appropriated $11 million for integration grant bus this bill doesn't provide direct appropriations. instead, it pulls the funds out of the examination fees account. and it foes a step further, prohibiting direct funding for grants. but i think we should provide direct appropriations for these grants because it should be a national priority. beth sides agree that legal immigrants who want to become part of society and learn our laws and language should be able to beco
phyllis moves to the frust sri lanka to take care of her three grandsons. being a good citizen, knowing our laws and speaking the language will help those young boys grow up to be strong citizens themselves. immigrant whors integrated into society go on to become entrepreneurs and job creators. whether they come on family or employment visas, through the asylum or refugee programs or other smaller immigration programs, legal permanent residents come to this country with the dream of becoming...
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also phyllis smith, you'll recognize her from "the office," she's fantastic, apparently she sort of steals reviews. we'll be getting a review on monday. >> on monday. >> about "bad teacher." >> extend your favorite education metaphor, needs improvement, subpar grades. >> a lot of people go just to look at cameron diaz, which is understandable. >> i don't have any idea why people do that. let's move on now to "cars" from pixar. we should say that is a sister company of abc news, both owned by disney. this, the cars of radiator springs come back. this time there's actually a spy thriller plot, secret weapons, some sinister villains, and listen now to tow-mater voiced by larry the cable guy as he figures out his disguise. >> it's voice activated. but, you know, everything's voice activated these days. >> what? i thought you was supposed to be making me a disguise. >> voice recognized. disguise program initiated. >> cool! make me a german trunk. check it out. i'm wearing lederhosen. make me a monster truck. i vant to siphon your gas! >> lightning mcqueen and all his pals get together again. th
also phyllis smith, you'll recognize her from "the office," she's fantastic, apparently she sort of steals reviews. we'll be getting a review on monday. >> on monday. >> about "bad teacher." >> extend your favorite education metaphor, needs improvement, subpar grades. >> a lot of people go just to look at cameron diaz, which is understandable. >> i don't have any idea why people do that. let's move on now to "cars" from pixar. we...
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carlsbad, california phyllis. caller: carlsbad, new mexico. host: in new mexico. go ahead. caller: i don't care whether you are independent, republican, democrat. stop taking all the wages away from them working in washington or living outside of it. take all their perks away and start hurting like the rest of america is hurting. we are. i brought a daughter from one side of the country to another because of no business. they've lost it all. start letting them feel the pinch. host: we have a tweet from dean he writes instead of cutting benefits, congress should be cutting waste and tax loopholes. send us your tweets at c c-span wj. on the line for republicans. caller: good morning. i'm 52 years old. i've been paying into social security since i was 14. i've been an independent contractor most of the time. i believe the problem with social security is that people are getting a lot more than they paid in. it's like trying to nail jel low to a tree. start out by making it optional. let's pay everybody back what they paid in and kill the system and let people keep the money and
carlsbad, california phyllis. caller: carlsbad, new mexico. host: in new mexico. go ahead. caller: i don't care whether you are independent, republican, democrat. stop taking all the wages away from them working in washington or living outside of it. take all their perks away and start hurting like the rest of america is hurting. we are. i brought a daughter from one side of the country to another because of no business. they've lost it all. start letting them feel the pinch. host: we have a...
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host: phyllis in illinois, your take? caller: good morning, greta.ur troubles began when reagan took us off the gold standard. we print money at will. we do not have to have gold in fort knox to back it up anymore. in the meantime, they were spending money like crazy, and then as of september of last year, the congress of rhode $13 trillion out of social security, and over the years, since reagan, a bar at over $22 trillion out of medicare. if they want to save money, bring our troops home, put them on the borders, put them into the railways and airports for our security, bell said a $70 billion a year. plus the oil and ammunition and tanks that we're building, would be close to $2 trillion a year right there. what is going on is too many of our congress people, representatives, are too busy investing their money in hedge funds and on the gravy train. they could care less about the people of this country, what is going on is a sin. host: president obama picked a new commerce secretary. the pick made the front page of the financial times this morning.
host: phyllis in illinois, your take? caller: good morning, greta.ur troubles began when reagan took us off the gold standard. we print money at will. we do not have to have gold in fort knox to back it up anymore. in the meantime, they were spending money like crazy, and then as of september of last year, the congress of rhode $13 trillion out of social security, and over the years, since reagan, a bar at over $22 trillion out of medicare. if they want to save money, bring our troops home, put...
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think what might happen on the campus early with of of the date season is to have a multiplicity of phyllis leases. for rick symbol, sometimes by the time i see the debates, i heard everything that obama was going to say, and i heard everything that these people were going to see. i wish we had more possibility of a third-party candidate that this world is not just democrat or republican, and it certainly shows that if you are wealthy like ross perot you can get into the debate. those are the most interesting debates. was he going to win? did i want him to win? did i want him to raise certain issues that may be made both candidates uncomfortable? i fink making the republican and the democrats uncomfortable like i'm sure ralph nader would have done would have been of real value to show there are more releases than just two. >> i would expect to find a measure of fairness and justice in the way it is managed so that businesses who have the understanding that everyone has been given in the participation in the wide spectrum of the political forces because what happens ultimately implications w
think what might happen on the campus early with of of the date season is to have a multiplicity of phyllis leases. for rick symbol, sometimes by the time i see the debates, i heard everything that obama was going to say, and i heard everything that these people were going to see. i wish we had more possibility of a third-party candidate that this world is not just democrat or republican, and it certainly shows that if you are wealthy like ross perot you can get into the debate. those are the...
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phyllis is joining us from lagrange eleanor pitsch caller: good morning, a young man. i am 73 years old as of june 6. caller: happy birthday. caller: civic duty since i was 25 years old. hello? yemen -- host: i am listening to you. caller: they are talking about creating new jobs when you need the middle class workers who are in the manufacturing industry. they are overseas. put a 20% tax on all the imports. number one. bring the troops home. $670 billion a year, plus what it takes for us to buy the fuel and ammunition and the tanks. there's another almost $1 trillion a year. if you bring the troops home you put them on the borders and you put them in the railway stations and airports and protect ourselves from terrorists. ok? in the meantime, both members of congress are debating about nonsense instead of getting down to the actual business of putting america back on its feet. it is a shame what our congress is doing and john mccain now is pushing for more war? they ought to get rid of this money maugre because he did nothing but cracked up a plane and try to get a pi
phyllis is joining us from lagrange eleanor pitsch caller: good morning, a young man. i am 73 years old as of june 6. caller: happy birthday. caller: civic duty since i was 25 years old. hello? yemen -- host: i am listening to you. caller: they are talking about creating new jobs when you need the middle class workers who are in the manufacturing industry. they are overseas. put a 20% tax on all the imports. number one. bring the troops home. $670 billion a year, plus what it takes for us to...
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. >> phyllis is in her 40s. the shorts are going a little bit longer. more appropriate in the summer. we found the top here at jc penney and the great shorts from jc penney. what makes this look work appropriate is the fabric. it is not denim. it's a stiff cotton with the shirt from ann taylor. it's a casual work environment but you can wear it to the office. >> you said you can also bring this look to night. how? >> the shirt is sleeveless. slip it off, put a cute bolero over it, different heels and it works for night. >> your final model is nancy in her 50s. this is almost a bermuda length short. >> women in their 50s ask, can you wear shorts? yes, you can. you have to have great legs. we found these for $38. the rest is a structured jacket found at bloomingdale's. it's a more corporate look. great accessories we found at kohl's. >> people think with the bermuda short you lose the cuteness or sexiness. that's not the case. how do you keep it trendy, cute and up to the moment? >> we pair it with bright accessories. we have the wedge heel. that's an imp
. >> phyllis is in her 40s. the shorts are going a little bit longer. more appropriate in the summer. we found the top here at jc penney and the great shorts from jc penney. what makes this look work appropriate is the fabric. it is not denim. it's a stiff cotton with the shirt from ann taylor. it's a casual work environment but you can wear it to the office. >> you said you can also bring this look to night. how? >> the shirt is sleeveless. slip it off, put a cute bolero over...
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so, my wife, rabbi phyllis, said look, if are going to get these folks together to it's not going to be like that. and she said what we're going to do is, the first thing that's going to happen is a but is going to take 15 minutes to talk about their own spiritual journey that got into this place. and then each one is a human being, and one as a human being and another one as a human being was a christian and so on. but all of us were human beings, and we could hear the differences within that context of the spiritual journey, and our spiritual journeys were all different. but they were all spiritual, and that made an incredible difference. we ended up being able to break one of the, sort of unwritten, but practically written rules of interfaith dialogue, never try to pray together, because somebody will get mad. because either it will be -- or eccentric. we were able to figure out ways to create together that were authentic to each tradition, not each common denominator, and also conclusive. but that was possible because of the way we have begun. now why did i want to chime in to sa
so, my wife, rabbi phyllis, said look, if are going to get these folks together to it's not going to be like that. and she said what we're going to do is, the first thing that's going to happen is a but is going to take 15 minutes to talk about their own spiritual journey that got into this place. and then each one is a human being, and one as a human being and another one as a human being was a christian and so on. but all of us were human beings, and we could hear the differences within that...