for those earlier technical difficulties but it looks like we're going to be rejoined now by phyllis bennis director of the new internationalism project at the institute for policy studies phyllis before our connection dropped out i was asking you to explain the relationship between the taliban and pakistan's intelligence services and where the united states fits into that relationship. the taliban was a local group of afghans but who were quickly adopted given arms and training by the pakistani military and they became the sort of main supporter of the taliban during the years of afghanistan's civil war in the late ninety's india at the same time was the main regional supporter of the opposing group that was known as the northern alliance and those were the two forces fighting each other in the civil war the taliban won the civil war in one thousand nine hundred six and pakistan continued to support them when the us invaded and overthrew the taliban government in two thousand and one claiming that the taliban was harboring osama bin laden interestingly the guy that the u.s. used to support

bush is it time to cut and run joining me now is phyllis bennis director fellow and program director at the institute for policy studies new internationalism project and author of numerous books including ending the u.s. war in afghanistan primer which she wrote co-wrote with david well phyllis welcome welcome to the program good to be with you tom thanks for having me on so first of all can you just give us an overview an update what is the situation in afghanistan right now and how has how is that different from the situation since the beginning of the american invasion you know it's a terrific question because it sets up exactly one of the great stories of afghanistan you know you remember when the afghan war began this version of the afghanistan war of course there have been earlier ones in the eighty's the u.s. was fighting the soviet union in afghanistan. in the ninety's there was a terrible civil war in afghanistan this war began in two thousand and one right after nine eleven when george bush said that the response of the u.s. to this horrific crime would be to treat it as an

coming up on sunday morning, phyllis bennis from the institute for policy studies discussing the trump administration's foreign policy and the present's recent speech on afghanistan. brian mcgrath, formal naval officer, now with the hudson institute, talks about recent collisions involving u.s. warships. be sure to arch c-span's "washington journal," live at 7 a.m. eastern. join the discussion.

coming up on sunday morning, phyllis bennis from the institute for policy studies discussing the trump administration's foreign policy and the present's recent speech on afghanistan. brian mcgrath, formal naval officer, now with the hudson institute, talks about recent collisions involving u.s. warships. be sure to arch c-span's "washington journal," live at 7 a.m. eastern. join the discussion. >> also on today's "washington of the," a discussion role of anti-fascist groups at recent demonstrations around the country. this is about 25 minutes. >> welcome back. we are going to speak with mark about the antifa movement. handbook." thank you for being with us this morning. guest: a pleasure. host: what is your relationship to the movement? guest: sure, i'm a longtime activist and historian. i was involved in occupy wall street in new york city back in 2011. -involved in a variety of social justice movements. with the resurgence of the old -right, there is actually relatively little written about postwar anti-fascism after world war ii. socialist, think the they fought against hitler and m

picture is donald trump aiming for victory in afghanistan or a permanent military occupation last phyllis bennis just about.

for some insight i was joined earlier by phyllis bennis director of the new internationalism project at the institute for policy studies and author of the book understanding isis the new global war on terror i first asked her if she had an interpretation of trump's plan which is low on details i think the strategy is to continue fighting the war as he has been this president has already really reduced the insufficient restrictions that existed before on using military force where civilians were involved he has allowed the generals to make all the decisions saying that they should make all the decisions based on conditions on the ground not taking into account the politics the diplomacy the regional considerations and he's been doing all of that for the last six months since he's been in office in that context he hasn't really made any changes at all this without any new information about how many new troops how long they will be there this is a recipe for permanent war. well you heard what someone reported there are last night what trump said about pakistan afghanistan neighbor calli