explorations in black leadership was a collaboration between university of virginia professors phyllis leflerr and julia bond. it's about 15 minutes. >> phyllis, what is the explorations in black leadership project? >> it's a videotaped oral history interview series that was carried out at the university of virginia. it was done with the co-directorship of now the late jeweli i julian bond and myself. it's a project that brought prominent african-american leaders to the university in order to talk about their own personal life histories and also to talk about leadership in general. >> when did you start the project? >> we started the project -- well, i first talked to julian about it in 1998 and asked if he would be my collaborator. we actually invited the first guest in the year 2000. the project ended, we did our last interview in 2014. >> how did the idea come up? >> initially, it was my idea. i was creating for the university an institute for public history. and i was trying to design some projects that would fall within the category of public history. of course, part of public history, or

explorations in black leadership was a collaboration between university of virginia professors phyllis leflerr and julia bond. it's about 15 minutes. >> phyllis, what is the explorations in black leadership project? >> it's a videotaped oral history interview series that was carried out at the