in this case, it was phyllis schlafly. and i think the lesson that should be learned by both the right and the left is that individual action and grass roots activism in a democracy can matter. at least under some circumstances, if the circumstances are right. longtime republican party activist phyllis schlafly started a movement called "stop e.r.a.," declaring that e.r.a. meant the drafting of women into the military. remember, america was just emerging from the vietnam war. she also argued that it would take away statutory rights of wives and mothers, it would federalize law that's were perceived as the proper jurisdiction of states, and would rescind or overturn previous labor legislation protecting women. and the stop e.r.a. movement spread like wildfire among traditional women. schlafly, though she proclaimed to be a housewife, which she was, she also came into the e.r.a. fight as an experienced organizer with an extensive network of republican women supporters throughout the country. and when she announced that she w

what we're going to see today is a debate by phyllis schlafly and pat schroeder congresswoman from the state of colorado. she was a feminist and pr pro-e.r.a. supporter. so we could turn down the lights and we'll start the clip.