before i go i have to ask how you decided to use the phyllis shapley comparison. as i know, you know a lot of people watching know as linda was writing this, the miniseries mrs. america was on the air and an interesting comparison. tell us how you settled on that. >> host: not many people watch that popular miniseries but it wasn't in the news. i had been writing years ago in the history of the abortion issue in the united states and a big role, the equal rights amendment, and tuesday if this amendment is that the constitution, the right to abortion and doing that, she was able to foment riots between catholics and evangelicals in american politics, very wary of one another, the catholic church being on abortion and evangelicals, not because of abortion thursday that they saw as a threat to the traditional family structure, and it is oversimplified, there were many hands in this but focusing into the very powerful coalition that was coincident with the rise of ronald reagan. toward the end of the public part of her career. her career lasted until 2016, to endorse