pia klemp was awarded the grand vermeil medal last mononth alongside carola rackete, a fellow member of the refugee rescue organization sea-watch. two years ago, klemp's ship was seized by authorities in an italian port and shehe was eventually charged with assisting so-called illegal immigratioion. shshe is currently awaiting tril and faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted. coulde yaxley, if you commmment on the stakes fofor pe who are trying to help those who might diet see? -- dyad see and are? >> think the frustration she expresses are understandable. ngo boats are picking up people who are in a desperate state. let's be clear, people don't take these boats are in -- they are aware these journeys can often be fatal and nobody puts their own lives and the lives of their family at risk in that way unless they feel they're better off on the water than on the land. so whenn ngo's pickck people u d their them in the s sea, ordedeal is not over. they are then stranded at sea for days on end while states have often engaged in a political back and forth trying to see who can most shi