. >> yes, picu.[laughter] >> so i'm not going to take some accent. >> could you even do it if he tried? >> i doubt it. [laughter] >> so i said to them -- they said, who are you? and i said that i am actually an academic researcher and i am doing research on these organizations and trying to understand this and a bunch of them said okay, and i just said, look. i don't get it. i want to understand how you guys see the coast and the world and your worldview. and i will not convince you. what off the table. but why i want to understand is to know how you think the way they do. so i would say roughly half of the guys in my research, i acknowledge those. >> they would say that i don't want to talk about this, basically i don't want to talk about this and you would never understand in one or two said something intimate, but it was vague and rather thin on the surface. and i am fine with that. but the guys who did, the whole complaint is that you are the forgotten american on whose back this country was buil