a problem with redundancy and this commission has itself said it is very dissatisfied with this piecemeal approach, but one of the reasons why this piecemeal approach works as they can come before you and ignore every other application they have pending and pretend they do not exist and there is no interaction between them. t-mobile and at&t seek to merge. what is going to happen with those redundancies? [bell] why should there be a situation in which necessity is determined by whether they pay the church some money in order to get the rights to do this? this is not necessary. it is not desirable. it is potentially harmful for the neighborhood. thank you. >> are there any additional speakers? public comment is closed. i will make a couple of remarks. i have talked to the department and some of the supervisors about an overall plan, number one, i do not think the supervisors have come together on the concept of it to and they have not provided enough funds for the department to do anything regarding it. as to safety, i hope everyone understands i have been repeating its week after week tha

commissioner miguel spoke, we're being piecemealed to death. commissioner moore was looking for plan based on my request and david geffen -- different guidance. a commissioner remarked he noted the frustration of his colleagues. we're doing the same thing here for the next six years. that was back on february 17. i am asking what the planning department has done to find an overall guidance play in -- plant for telecommunications services. thank you. president olague: thank you. >> i live at 1425 alito -- vallejo street. the -- one of the big concerns we have as was mentioned is the structural integrity. we understand that they church of fellowship of all peoples is a very historic institution in san francisco. that speaks to the diversity of san francisco. as far as the maintenance of the building, there has been no seismic retrofitting in this building which was built in 1907. there is no record of it. there has been no or early maintenance work. there have been three permits, one in 2003, 2005, and 2010. none of them has been -- has the final

blocks, so that when the opponents make a reference to another place 450 feet away, this feels like a piecemeal process, and it is to the degree that each one of these requires of full permit and it takes about 18 months for us to develop this and do all of these reports, and submit to planning and in this process takes a considerable amount of time. we know whether dropped calls are, we know where we have gaps in coverage, and so, this is a predominantly difficult place for us, in a largely residential area. there are concerns raised about the structural integrity. we're putting 650-pound antenna's here, and the building department will come out to investigate, looking at the report from the third party architectural engineer to determine if this is structurally sound. if it is not we will remedy this, and make certain that this is up to code. >> commissioner antonini? commissioner antonini: my understanding of the conditional use is that the item has to be necessary or desirable, not both. the demand is growing geometrically and telecommunications, for obvious reasons, two commissioners are u

the piecemeal treatment of the problem is obviously legal speak for that we plan to throw more cabs you. more cabs are unreasonable under any circumstances, and they are not the answer. chairman nolan: next speaker. >> he will be followed by mark and charles. the i represent both services, the advisory committee, and the mayor of's disability consultant. i am here to address concern about traveling on speed level -- the street level. that it can be pretty dangerous because vehicles really don't pay attention to warn them to yield to the passengers. we have a person who is legally blind that almost got hit while trying to board. the other meeting i attended, they made a pretty good suggestion that maybe they can investigate, to use flashers. like school buses. whenever they have the flesh as -- flashers on, they're required to stop. maybe sfmta can look into that to the improve the safety of passengers getting on and off the train. i don't know how many accidents or anything have occurred, but it is a big concern for people that are blind and have no sense of trying to figure out how to

realistically, they know this thing will be piecemeal.'s go to the big story of the moment -- law enforcement is investigating an intelligence report about three men who may be trying to detonate bombs in new york and washington. vice president biden said the thread wasn't confirmed but officials are taking it very seriously. >> people are likely to try over the next period of months and year, but the point is that we are using every single asset we can, including local law enforcement, to help thwart the possibility that it could happen. >> all right. people williams is nbc justice correspondent. pete, howaries serious is this taken more seriously because we're in the 9/11. he r commemoration moment? >> reporter: that's part of it but not ought. a trusted source in pakistan who has told american intelligence officials that he picked up word of a threat to the u.s. the source that he was told, three people from there plan to fly to the u.s. and set off car or truck bombs in new york or washington either today, rather saturday, sunday or m

it developed piecemeal.it was not macro planned in any way. >> this looks like it was over the track, but it is not. >> you will find early reports of people saying it was a dog racing track. >> this is the racing track. this is on the southwest side. >> ingleside terraces. it is the same thing with the residents park. we will have a giant sundial with a reflecting pond. it has pillars around each end. it has an ionic column. it was supposed to be a commemoration of the panama canal opening. he had these girls dancing at the dedication. he had a baby being pushed in a carriage. the sundial was dedicated at night. it is kind of a strange little thing. it is there and you can go see it. this is another before and after shot that shows it around 1900. this is in the 1950's. they started carving away. that building is still there. it is where the lakeside district is. i like the rocket. a well-known builder in the area, an admirer of henry ford, the idea of getting this down, having an assembly line, build this

and we have the whole thing in front of us and we're not looking at it piecemeal. that would give me a great deal of comfort and that is not the structure that is in the timeline. we have not talked in those terms. i do not want to -- define the elephant, i want to see the whole thing at one time. >> most of what you are asking for can be accommodated. the issue is on the finalized rate, those rates change every day. you'd have to give some authority within that period in terms of appropriating any reserves to make them meaningful, you would have to have the preparation in front of you and the goal would be to have that corp. happen with the contract. you would be signing the contract knowing what it cost and appropriating the money to do it. one issue that is a problem is that cpuc bond. that is out of our control when that might happen. the project is contingent on that, we pretty much go as far as we can and we stop. that could be a very long time. that is the problem we have had. >> i appreciate that. at the moment i am not comfortable saying i am ready to proc

and then, forb instance, one da david axelrod says no, we're not going to negotiate this piecemeal.e'll take it. >> it's the slow drips that democrats are saying you know what, i don't know what this white house -- >> stop working with these guys. they're not working with you. >> exactly. stop playing nice. >> hang on. we're going to talk about some more action on the other side, including what's going on on the republican side. but first, we had our trivia. we asked which u.s. president that we know of fathered the most children. the answer, john tyler with 15 legitimate children. he owns the record among presidents, because a lot of people had their illegitimate, smarty, snarky answers on twitter. tyler was born during george washington's presidency, his youngest child lived to see truman be president. think about that. and one of his grabbed grandchildren is still alive. we'll be right back. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. ity. i find investments with e-trade's top 5 lists and use pre-defined screeners to work smarter. not harder. i depend on myself to take cha

service to the public is a serious matter and with all due respect, we do not appreciate the piecemeal approach to this matter which is critical to our ability to provide service to the public. regarding the part time permits, we have no objection to part time permits. we have presented a proposal in december of last year. why is that not in front of you along with this other proposal? we would like to see that case made in a formal pcnn. i hope you give weight to the comments. you are in the middle of a pilot program. why come up with a new pilot program that seems to be going in quite a different direction? thank you. >> good afternoon. i am with a group called medallion holders association. during the last six years, there were biennial hearings to see of the drivers deserved a meter rate increase and on all three occasions, the controllers said yes. the consumer price index indicated that. the supervisors have the prerogative to ignore that recommendation and they did. i appreciate his body biting the bullet and having a substantial increase to the public even the members will not

think also i portugal and ireland are into big trouble to simply continue to address the problems piecemeal the way they've been doing it i think that at this point they need to have a structured solution for greece for ireland from portugal i think spain also and then figure out what we're going to do with italy i don't know if that's a much bigger problem but i think that in late late this year early next year some sort of solution will need to be devised that incorporates greece ireland portugal spain perhaps in a total kind of restructuring package either that or greece is going to have to unilaterally default but unfortunately greek people have a government actually represents them so that's their biggest problem they don't have a debtor that's negotiating us a better with the creditors they have kind of a debtor that's negotiating with the creditors on that on their behalf against the greek people which is what the greek government's been doing is there a broader lesson for the euro zone is this what you're saying is essentially a lack of a voice by the people that's undemocratic is t

when we get it piecemeal like this, i'm suspicious that it is being patched together. >> i rather it be all at once. i think we have to focus on what people can agree on. republicans and democrats will agree we should cut taxes and small businesses. i think republicans and democrats would agree that a tax cut for middle class families make sense. republicans in the past have supported infrastructure programs. they have to be targeted but i think we can find some agreement. most republicans support the trade deals. there's a lot of room for common ground from what i heard tonight. >> greta: congressman mccarthy said there was push back from the white house on trade deals. >> i think -- [ talking over each other ] >> greta: we -- the country is desperate let's wait, we'll do it after labor day or whatever. those trade deals really mean those jobs they should be there yesterday. >> i'm not sure they do. i think you will see them this fall. >> greta: this fall! if you sitting in my hometown tonight, you are probably watching the packer game, but any way. if you don't have a job you don't

everything now, piecemeal is it going to work? >> no. has now, a problem he didn't have last year the÷czÃpublic has come to a judgment. they don't trust his political policy decision-making. if he had been seen to have spent the 800 billion last time on the stimulus well, he might be able to make a case for spending another 400,. but because the public cape to the judgment he didn't spend the money well they don't want him to spend another 400 billion. he's becoming an obstacle in the public's mind to recovery. >> sean: i think he's hit a tipping point, if i may use that term, malcolm gladwell, great book. i think the american people now the narrative is in cement. he's incompetent, inept, in over his head. rigid, ideological. and he doesn't have a willingness to change. why? >> i'm not sure i'm going to agree with the premise of that question. >> sean: tell me where he's changing. tell me what is different about this speech, these proposals, they are floating and what he said before? >> i think what needs to be different and what this c

when we get it piecemeal like this, i'm suspicious that it is being patched together. >> i rather it be all at once. i think we have to focus on what people can agree on. republicans and democrats will agree we should cut taxes and small businesses. i think republicans and democrats would agree that a tax cut for middle class families make sense. republicans in the past have supported infrastructure programs. they have to be targeted but i think we can find some agreement. most republicans support the trade deals. there's a lot of room for common ground from what i heard tonight. >> greta: congressman mccarthy said there was push back from the white house on trade deals. >> i think -- [ talking over each other ] >> greta: we -- the country is desperate let's wait, we'll do it after labor day or whatever. those trade deals really mean those jobs they should be there yesterday. >> i'm not sure they do. i think you will see them this fall. >> greta: this fall! if you sitting in my hometown tonight, you are probably watching the packer game, but any way. if you don't have a job you don't

. >> we do not want piecemeal litigation with confidential settlements behind a steel curtain of secrecy where nobody knows what happened and why. >> the victims are seeking money for liability and punitive damages. today's hearing on the heels of the ntsb's scathing report which blasted pg & e for shoddy wells and poor oversight. tune in for an nbc bay area news special report, called san bruno remembrance and recovery. it airs live here on nbc bay area, a week from tomorrow, at 4 4:00 p.m. friday, september 9th marks the one year anniversary of the explosion. >>> turn your attention to the weather which probably got your ation outside, and saw it was hot. tomorrow it turns ow is spare the air day. and our meteorologist its here, jeff ranieri. it got warm fast? >> 10, 15 degree increase in our temperatures. oakland to san francisco. see the it has and smog inhe atmosphere right now. it only takes one day across the bay area. hot temperature thousands. relatively light winds. and you start to see this happening here. that reduced visibility. temperatures did climb into the upper 80s and

it's also good to see them move away from what has been a piecemeal, ad hoc approach to something more issues are two-fold. one is how are we going to pay for this. so there's going to be a lot of anticipation for the fiscal component of this package and second, you're absolutely right. can we get enough political unity behind any initiative? my sense is there's a real danger that washington may make the best, the enemy of the good. that should ab voided. >> absolutely that should ab voided. what do you think is the most necessary component of what was proposed and the most likely to really get through congress the way it stands now? >> so i think if you approach this as a technocrat, an economist, you really don't want to give up on much. because if anything this is just a building block. more is going to be needed as we go forward. as a technocrat, i wouldn't give up on much. as a political scientist, there may be some need to give up on something but i would argue that there's enough in common in this package that hopefully we can get enough of a convergence to the center. that will

will pass, and now the conventional wisdom is, well, maybe they'll salvage something, and -- >> piecemealive me a perspective on how worried the white house is about the jobs situation, and if that is topic number one, how far ahead of any other topic is that right now? >> way ahead. >> way ahead. >> that's -- >> i mean, the american job act is now the centerpiece of the obama presidency, and, you know, he is going to use it if not to get the economy better because if it doesn't pass, it won't have any effect. if not do to do that, then at least to lay down a marker so that next fall when americans are making this choice they know what he stands for, they know what he wants to do with the job, and in that sense it's very helpful for him because it gets him off the defensive and makes him look stronger and it gives definition and tone to his presidency. >> okay. let's say this thing gets broken apart now, which in all likelihood is what's going to happen, and it takes a while to get things passed and then implementation of those jobs. when do the first jobs start rolling as a result of thi

, he expects this whole thing to be passed in solidarity like that or is he expecting this to be piecemealherry picked? >> he'd love that. i think the president is hardly naive, alex. his pretty tough battles and he'll have more tough battles. you know, he realizes that he's going to have folks sniping at him. he realizes that the tea party does not want to pass anything that has his name or his stamp of approval on it. that's unfortunate. as pat says, maybe we can get beyond that. the key thing with this, too, is republicans understand when you're in congress right now, and your approval rating is 12%, you've got trouble. and you bet dor something. the folks out there are mad and angry as i have ever seen them. they want action. they don't want gridlock. >> they want action. they're tired of politics. last word, pat. >> yes. the general obama strategy, i think people have compared it to harry trumen in 1948 where he went up to the congress in the late summer of '48 and said, look, i know i'm in trouble, we're all in trouble, the country is in trouble, i need these five things. one of them

the coming weeks here, is it now clear that the full plan doesn't go forward, that this is done piecemealyou see happening? >> i think the president has laid out the right plan. i think democrats and republicans need to come together. it's not going to be what the president wants. we're anything to have to be able to develop a plan between the democrats and republicans. i hope, though, it will meet the objectives the president has laid out-- create the jobs that we need. you mentioned with senator babarrasso tax reform, i think tax reform is one area where democrats and republicans can come together. if we do tax reform right we will bring in additional revenues that we can use to help bring our deficit in control in a way that will allow us to be more efficient and have job growth. so i think there are ways that we can do this where democrats and republicans can come together. i think the president has laid out the right plan for job growth, and i would think that the democrats and republicans both want to see more jobs. we should be able to come together. >> brown: senator cardin, i am

. >> jamal, it does seem rinse have said they'd like it piecemeal.ake this piece, that piece. they are not interested in handing him a giant win, per se, but at the same time, they do -- the leadership reads polls. to me eric cantor and john boehner, they get it. they know they're a little bit under pressure here but is the president setting himself up here for a fight with congress that really only as someone said to me when you lie down with a dog, don't be surprised you get fleas. >> he's already got fleas. the reality is he's been in bed with this dog since the day he got inaugurated. for a lot of democrats in the country, i was just down in broward county, people are ready to see this president fight. so he's sort inform a place where he wins if he loses. if he fights hard enough. >> i've heard this, win-win supposedly. but boy -- the lack of accomplishment, though, if you don't get it done. yes, they own it. but so does he. >> but the question that they're trying to put to the american people is either you are for improving the economy and havi

the fact that these people will be such a contribution to our economy, if we end up with some of piecemeal measures, we would support them. >> i would agree with that. we support comprehensive immigration reform. in the meantime we would support a peaceful legislation. we focus on and trying to work toward administrative reform. we want to look at areas where we can work with the government to make some slight changes that will have a larger impact on the folks who are waiting for their green cards. >> the chamber was a very involved in getting the stem. that was done through regulations with the agency. in a couple years when we're hitting the cap on the very first day, the stem extension was critical. there may be other things like that we cannot act. if your suggestions, we are always looking for them. >> we do a lot of work on immigration. he noticed with the absence of comprehensive reform, a lot of states have taken their own initiatives. have you seen or do you expect to see certain stakes to become more economically competitive? do you think that could push a case for reform on the

about what the president has proposed, peace now -- piecemeal. >> we are still seeing the details as they are rolled out. i would not call corporate tax reform a tax increase. i would call in bringing fairness and equity to the system. i think he is rolling out more in the next few days. >> the super committee at the end of the day. whether this is a proper place, i do not think that is what the president is talking about. at the end of the day, the jobs package, it is not as important as we are talking about it. they are going to posture. they are going to come out with their rhetorical statements. i think as we are talking about, at the end of the day, our job is to put pressure on them. our job is to talk to responsible colleagues on the other side of the idol who want to solve these problems. -- on the other side of the aisle who want to solve these problems. get those trillions of dollars off of the sideline. you need total tax reform. look at them more quickly. like jim said, give it to the smart people who have been around. we do not want to offend people with expertise. we wi

not give these your assembly for piecemeal changes in the tax base or succumbing to the targeting that you spoke of for specific industry. success will come when we address the fundamental tax reform that can help achieve a higher u.s. standard of living. i look forward to working directly with congress, passing tax reform to provide sustained economic growth and sustained job creation. we did bring one other chart. i will close with a company that a because it is kind of important, and it shows where the tables are today. this once gone a little bit of attention, but that's what we need to change, tax reform and help move those numbers on the employment side to positive direction. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you, governor. mr. kleinbard. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and distinguish numbers for inviting me to testify. the u.s. today is an extraordinarily low taxed country by world's norms. the fourth lowest in the oecd. and given by our own standards we're collecting historically low levels of tax, below 50% of gdp for the last three years. at the same time, we are spending outlie

he believes both parties need to work together to strengthen it rather than take a piecemeal approach recall, when the president had these talks with speaker boehner on the grand bargain, they did discuss making changes to the inflation formula to social security. it was resisted by democrats who don't think social security is adding to the deficit. now the president, the white house saying it will not include changes. >> dan lothian at the white house. dan, thanks. >>> in a few hours, john boehner will unveil his prescription to help out the economy. it's aimed to put more americans to work. it's where the similarities end. kate, what do we expect to hear? >> reporter: we'll keep a close eye on the speech coming up. the most direct comments by the speaker, yet and lengthy comments yet about the jobs plan and how to spur job creation. it could be the counter point to the president's jobs speech. he'll lay out what he hopes the supercommittee will focus on to reach their deficit reduction target. according to a republican aid who obviously knows what the speaker will be talking about t

martha: the biggest question is whether or not they will pass it sort of piecemeal, whether that will be acceptable to democrats or the president. it seems like they're going to have to, right? >> you're likely to get a counter proposal from the republicans with suggestions of their own and then meld the two together to come up with some kind of program. that's the most likely outcome here, but that's the spending side of it. nobody has a clue on how it's going to be paid for, which taxes will be raised, and on whom, which loopholes will be gotten rid of or not gotten rid of. we simply don't know. martha: the supercommittee has a lot of work to do over the next couple of weeks. stuart, we thank you very much for that, we're going to have a lot more coming up on that and stuart coming up on the fox business network. >>> so what part of the president's plan do you think would be the most helpful to jumpstart this economy? tens of thousands are weighing in on our online poll. most saying that they agree with the payroll tax cuts that stuart just talked about for employers and employees.

we heard him say he will have to accept parts of this if republicans are willing to pass it piecemealularly the part that relates to a temporary tax incentive. certainly he will have to do those things. he recognizes that. but the goal just as you see today is for him to have something to go out and talk to the american people about, for him to be able to go out there and rail against in a republican congress that he says is not taking action on his plan. that's what this is about more than anything else. megyn: thank you, sir. seeing president obama in ohio seems familiar there's a good reason for that. this is his 15th trip to ohio since moving into the oval office and his third trip this year. ohio has not picked a loser in the race for president since 1960. maybe it should come as a surprise it's a hot spot for the president. in the president made this bumps in the road remark in toledo, saying there would always be bums in the road of recovery. it later became the theme of a mitt rom of any attack ad. meantime new developments in the scandal surrounding the california solar compa

immediately, david axelrod was out, in the recent days, saying, not only that, it can't be passed piecemeal. it has to be passed in its entirety and they've really upped the ante on the importance of passing the bill, and what it means for president obama's future, and, certainly, for his re-election as well and i know there are a lot of democrats who... chris stirewalt, fox news digital politics editor. chris, welcome. you have harry reid, basically, taking his sweet time on this and he says, well, you know, i have a number of other things on the agenda before we get to this and it will not happen until after next break and that is not the language the president is looking for? >> remember what the majority leader has, he has a bunch of democrats who are in vulnerable seats in red states and look across the country and see all of the democrats who are facing tough races and harry reid knows he cannot leave them dangling. martha: no doubt. what do you make of this, rand paul, when bill spoke to him, he said i see this as a make or break moment for the president. and i find it very interesti

everybody's giving a pass on a piecemeal basis, and do you think, you know, collectively it amounts toething more in your view, dick? >> well, sure. i mean, when rick perry calls the head of the fed, ben bernanke, from dylan, south carolina, his conduct treasonous and he gets a pass? >> he didn't get a pass. people like me stood up and said it was wrong. it was wrong for him to say that. a lot of republicans did stand up and say that. >> not many. not many, brad. >> type of hate speech. megyn: go ahead, dick. i'll let you respond, and then we're going to go to the president of after his opening remarks. you're not going to misany of the substance, but he's going to say his hellos. go ahead, dick. >> all i'm saying is, brad, it's a vacation day. take a deep breath. if worst thing we hear today from all the political speeches is what jimmy hoffa jr. said, it's going to be a quiet labor day, where's the rhetoric -- megyn: but, dick, it was the president who called for more civility, who tried to rewrite the rules in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting. >> it didn't work. megyn: but wh

press secretary jay carney, that the president wouldn't veto an element of this bill if he got it piecemealss, pushing for more. that's what he'll be pushing for today. he wants congress to take up this entire bill and pass it soon. although, you know, sources on the hill concede it's very unlikely that it would pass congress in its entirety. >> all right. brianna keilar, thank you very much. >>> president obama is choosing states where he needs to get the most political bang for his buck. new polling results showed how skeptical the public has become. deputy political director paul steinhauser with the numbers. paul? >> reporter: brand new numbers from cnn and orc conducted over the weekend after the president's primetime speech on jobs. do you approve or disapprove of how president obama's handling his duties in the white house? 43% approval. pretty much where it's been. 55% disapproval. kyra, that is an all-time high in cnn/orc polling. the numbers indicates that his numbers on being a decisive and strong leader are dropping among the american public. >> what about the numbers with regar

they seem to be saying, in fact, now he's going to roll his ideas out a little more piecemeal than all in one speech. >> reporter: right, which is fairly shocking. and i'll be surprised if there aren't a list of specifics. you know, you have all these republican candidates, mitt romney, jon huntsman coming up with very detailed jobs plans. the president will probably roll out some policy specifics and mix in the politics, but the fact that they're saying it's going to come out in a number of different speeches, yeah, there is a fatigue, i think. and you see that this polls. the president's approval rating, how people think the country's on the right track or the wrong track. all of those numbers are not looking positive for this president. and there are people who look back at health care as a decision this administration's critics say perhaps that wasn't the best choice as the first big policy push that this administration made. megyn: i mean, in the context of the president now looking at congress, exasperated and saying why don't you finally focus on jobs? the response is, where wer

the fact that these people will be such a contribution to our economy, if we end up with some of piecemeal measures, we would support them. >> i would agree with that. we support comprehensive immigration reform. in the meantime we would support a peaceful legislation. we focus on and trying to work toward administrative reform. we want to look at areas where we can work with the government to make some slight changes that will have a larger impact on the folks who are waiting for their green cards. >> the chamber was a very involved in getting the stem. that was done through regulations with the agency. in a couple years when we're hitting the cap on the very first day, the stem extension was critical. there may be other things like that we cannot act. if your suggestions, we are always looking for them. >> we do a lot of work on immigration. he noticed with the absence of comprehensive reform, a lot of states have taken their own initiatives. have you seen or do you expect to see certain stakes to become more economically competitive? do you think that could push a case for reform on the

the fact that these people will be such a contribution to our economy, if we end up with some of piecemeal measures, we would support them. >> i would agree with that. we support comprehensive immigration reform. in the meantime we would support a peaceful legislation. we focus on and trying to work toward administrative reform. we want to look at areas where we can work with the government to make some slight changes that will have a larger impact on the folks who are waiting for their green cards. >> the chamber was a very involved in getting the stem. that was done through regulations with the agency. in a couple years when we're hitting the cap on the very first day, the stem extension was critical. there may be other things like that we cannot act. if your suggestions, we are always looking for them. >> we do a lot of work on immigration. he noticed with the absence of comprehensive reform, a lot of states have taken their own initiatives. have you seen or do you expect to see certain stakes to become more economically competitive? do you think that could push a case for reform on the

that we're going to make a break with tax policy as we know it today, we're going to stop all these piecemealrary changes, we're going to make permanent changes, they're going to be built around reform principles which are widely accepted, mr. president, ever since the 80's when democrats and ronald reagan got together. the fundamentals of tax reform have been very clear. they're all about eliminating preferences, all of these special interest tax breaks and loopholes and dodges and preferences, eliminating them and using those dollars to hold down the marginal rate, the rate you pay on the last dollar you earn, while keeping progressivity, while keeping a sense of fairness. those principles are very clear. all the reform proposals are based on them. it sure seems to me if middle-class people can have the certainty of knowing that tax policy is going to change so that they can start making decisions about their economic future, have a real sense that it isn't going to just change in a year, that it isn't just some temporary thing, i think we will start seeing beneficial changes in the america

but as far as the millionaire tax, i think actually it seems kind of piecemeal and i look at it and think think we need an overhaul of the totaled to so we create some sort of a level tax relative to income on average, never less than 5% of income and then tax increase about additional funds to reduce principle loan balances on foreign loans for foreign lenders. so that we're not obligated to foreign lenders. really funding comes from our internal borrowing and then as far as corporate tax kind of make it relative to the size of corporations and enable the viability of smaller companies. and i know there's been some talk about jobs and the stimulus package that the president has out there for another $400 billion and i just ran some quick numbers and said if we put $105 billion as a tax relief to corporations, with the direct requirement that they hire u.s.-based head count and then have a similar contribution of 15,000 per head count to the corporations, i mean, we could hire 7 million people at that rate with the commitment of the corporations to an equivalent of a minimum wage job and

whether it's the proper place to have individual piecemeal approaches, i don't think that's what thealked about. the president's jobs package is about instilling confidence. there's a mixed media message i think going to folks back home. they're not sure, are we paying attention to their plights and at the end of the day what's in, what gets passed a at the end of the day in the president's job package isn't as important as the fact that we're talking about it and boehner and cantor at least on the surface seem to be wanting to do something with the president. that's the type of confidence we're trying to instill in this supercommittee. to make sure that we're working together apt the end of the day. they're going to posture and come out with their rhetorical statements to start with. that's just politics 101 here in washington, d.c. but as everyone's talking about, at the end of the day our job is to put pressure on them. our job is to talk to our responsibility colleagues on the other side of the aisle that want to solve these problems. ain't going big is a win -- i think going big