questions, i believe mayor piercy has a question. >> we're running out of time, and i just -- you'll forgive me, mr. secretary and chair, i was going to talk about tarsands, but we're running out of time. i didn't want to let this meeting go without talking about what i consider to be a victory for clean energy and that is a bunch of us, about 103 mayors had signed a letter to the president asking him not to permit the tarsands line. and although the u.s. conference of mayors hasn't taken a position, they did do a resolution back in 2008, asking for it to be examined more carefully. and i just heard that the president today is going to make an announcement that he's not going to allow the permit for the tarstands line. so i consider that a victory for clean energy. i didn't want this meeting to go by without saying that. thank you to everybody who worked on that and thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak on it for a moment. >> thank you. do we have other comments or questions from the congressmen? anything from california? yes, please. >> thank you, mr. chair. congressman,