washington after pierre lafont came down to redesign it. >> i have some references to -- >> okay.enerally speaking, it was ft. washington, even the british on their ships called it ft. washington. so my question is, how prevalent is the use of the white house? >> it's not prevalent. i only know of three instances. but it's the point -- the point is it was known as the white house before. >> sure. >> and it really didn't become popularized, as you know, until much later, until the 1930s. >> us ba the real white house was down on the potomac. >> okay. i think we're going to cut so we have enough time to have lunch. thank you all very much. [ applause ] >> to all the presenters from today and yesterday, if you will meet with leslie in the back -- oh, right over here. and finally, we've heard a lot about benjamin henry latrobe, let me as a teaser read this short quote, something he wrote less than two years after the burning. "a greater benefit could not have accrued to this city than the destruction of its principle buildings by the british." well, we'll find out this afternoon why h