bill clinton wouldn't pass nafta and ross pierrot told him what would happen and the reason i am able to vote, i won't vote for him because he took right around and put hillary clinton up there and then when he went along with the gay deal, so i think just you guys can't have it both ways. that's what's wrong with people in north carolina and other states, too. all of them talk big, everybody talks big and nobody gets out there and does anything. >> katha he put a lot out there. go ahead. >> he did put a lot out there. i just want to say that i think both parties, both parties have important aspects of their economic policies that are very similar and that are intended to serve big business. that's the way it is. one reason that's the way it is is because of the whole campaign finance situation where that's how people get elected. it is very rare that somebody gets elected because a lot of good people gives them $10 each. mostly the way campaigns are funded is from large and business donors. that distorts our politics in both parties. i think you're completely right about that. >> for