later pierson says this. >> no, he said it. he's embarrassed. >> last night katrina pierson denied the phone call and today she said it. after 30 minutes after the story hit this morning, the president responded on twitter. when you give a crazy low-life a break, i guess it did not work out. good work for general kelly for quickly firing that dog. this is the latest series of tweets of manigault-newman. here is what she says of the president criticism. >> it certainly nothing to do with race but with the president calling someone's lack of integrity. the idea that you only point a few things the president has said negative about people that are minorities, the fact that the president's an equal opportunity person that calls things like he sees it. he fights fire with fire and he does not hold back from doing that across the board. >> whatever you think of that answer and take a moment to consider this. the president calling a former high level adviser, an african-american woman a dog may be material enough for a press briefing.

katrina pierson said there are two tapes. we've reached out to cbs for verification was this two separate tapes? we haven't gotten word back. you raise a fair point. gloria, the president does seem to have a penchant for likening people to dogs. i like dogs, but things like choking, getting fired, sweating, a few comparisons he's made to people over the past few years. >> mitt romney choking like a dog. it's his way, a silly way of donald trump asserting his prowess and his dominance. he doesn't like dogs. we know he is a germophobe. but what this is really about is about saying i am stronger than you, and i am better than you, and you choke like a dog and you sweat like a dog, and i'm going to fire that -- i'm going to fire that dog. it's demeaning not only to the person who is saying it, which would be donald trump, but it is demeaning to the office of the presidency and the stature of the presidency because a president really needs to understand that he should not be speaking like this. and i know his supporters will say t

we just booked to correct all my katrina pierson.'s what she said. >> ed: why didn't you tell me, ed, i didn't know all the details, but i did say, yes, he used this and were to use the conversation along whitesburg of the first call you are talking about where she is claiming i said that, was in a totally different call, where she was arguing with lynne patton about the existence. let me explain something to you! omarosa has been using this tape to manipulate people. >> ed: she's also using this tape to sell a lot of books. you have katrina pierson doubling down on the book idea of using the word "dog." they say they don't want to focus, she's a liar, they are giving her more attention, and they are selling a lot of books. >> i kind of needed a whiteboard for that discussion because there were a lot of things going on. >> ed: this one, that one. >> the bottom line is they were trying to spin it originally, then omarosa comes out with tapes, and it doesn't look good, and now they are trying to figure it out, going forward. the whole

i know you spoke to katrina pierson about this. just last night, she told a very different story. >> she did. she and other trump campaign advisers that denied the conversation like the one we just heard, they said that didn't take plate. katrina pierson gave me a statement yesterday saying this is all a complete fabrication, stef, by omarosa. but on that tape, you heard katrina pierson speaking of donald trump and this purported "n" word tape and said he said it, he's embarrassed by it. nbc news, we should point out, has not been able to verify the authenticity of that recording. in which donald trump uses the "n" word. and they talked repeatedly about how to handle it. i've been calling katrina pierson, all morning, but no word back yet. between two people who are of compromised credibility. one of whom, omarosa, seems to have evidence to back up at least some of her claims. >> it's like michael cohen all over again, two people without any credibility, but one's got the tapes to prove it. i want to bring my panel in. christine to

essentially katrina pierson now saying omarosa is wrong, crazy, whatever you want to say.'ll be on erin burnett "out front" this evening to explain her side of this. let's go to cnn's jeff zeleny at the white house. i was going to ask you to help untangle this. i don't think it can be untangled. >> reporter: john, what it speaks to is the fact that new statement there from katrina pierson, now she says she acknowledges there was a secret tape recording. she said she was trying to placate omarosa at the time. what this all boils down to, let's take a step back. this boils down to who president trump, then candidate trump, decided to surround himself with. at the time he brought omarosa on to the campaign, it was unclear he was going to become the 45th president of the united states. it was unclear that she would end up here at the white house, but that is what happened. this is a huge mess, largely of everyone's making. as we untangle this, there is potentially some legal action here. there has been an action filed in new york state, potentially with the trump campaign, see

>> hey, hey. >> pierson is heard on the tape saying he said it. she's heard saying he said it. >> anything on -- >> why would the president be -- >> i've worked alongside donald trump for two straight years and never heard him say anything like that. >> reporter: kellyanne conway said she briefed now president trump during the campaign about the rumors of the tape. she says that was her job. we've reached out to mgm studios, mark burnett productions, which owned the "apprenti "apprentice," and they said they won't release unaired material citing contractual obligations. we're at the mercy of omarosa and her timeline of releasing the tapes she has. >> this bitter back and forth raising much larger questions. geoff bennett working the beat today. thank you so much for that reporting. >> reporter: sure. >> and the new interview with kellyanne conway. i want to bring in my fantastic panel. political analyst michael steele. with me for the hour, washington examiner white house correspondent gabby. and "new york times" political reporter ken vogel. than

fox news that i an exclusive, with term 2020 campaign advisor katrina pierson. about to break some news. in the book, she complained confirms that president trump used a racial slur. pearson is here to say that is not false but she will reveal new information that could poke more holes in her story. information you will only hear this our ominous show. plus, another high-profile firing in washington today. the fbi was at the firing of this anti-trump tax controversy was fired. the president says it's about time. as the firing just for show or are we about to see some real accountability in the investigator of the investigators? will investigate. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i am ed henry in for shannon bream. we begin with the latest insider account of the white house. omarosa manigault newman is a former colleague of katrina pierson, making wild claims by the president. person will reveal that new information i mentioned about omarosa in a moment. but first, let's go to trace gallagher. good evening, trace. >> good evening. in three separate intervi

katrina pierson, long time spokesperson, responding saying how do we spin it, in effect treating it as credible at the time. omarosa has her own credibility issues as well here. is this something substantive that bears pursuit, this allegation from oomarosa? >> the idea there might be a tape out there. i think journalists have been looking into this. it was something that was floated during the campaign. it was floated by somebody who worked on "the apprentice." >> to be clear, we're talking about a tape that records the president using the "n" word. >> what's so interesting about that is the ways in which you had these three african-american women who were on that campaign strategically to defend the president against charges of racism. it's something that omarosa talks about in her book. this idea that how can donald trump be racist because he was so good to omarosa. that was her role in the campaign. she very often defended him against attacks of sexism and racism. now as he's facing those attacks from her, he doesn't necessarily have a lot of people left who can defend him. >> that

but that's where katrina pierson has landed.an't get to the bottom of this. so many stories. so many changing stories. back to you, jim. >> won't know unless we do find there's a tape. chris sills cillizza, thank you. >>> sarah sanders having an opportunity to clarify remarks from yesterday when she was asked whether the president is on the tape using the "n" word. here is the response that got so much attention yesterday. >> can you stand at the podium and guarantee the american people they'll never hear donald trump utter the "n" word on a recording in any context? >> i can't guarantee anything, but i can tell you that the president addressed this question directly. i can tell you that i've never heard it. >> just to be clear, you can't guarantee it? >> look, i haven't been in every single room. >> joining me now is julie hirschfield davis. listening to sarah sanders there. that's not the first time you see the white house spokesperson protect themselves a bit. one say, well, the president has said this. it's not me. the presi

pierson even suggests mr. trump is, quote, embarrassed by it. >> both women now claim they were just trying to get omarosa to move on. pierson telling cnn's erin burnett, the former "apprentice" star was the, quote, complete epitome of annoying. >> it got to the point where we had a campaign to run. so, what you hear in that tape, which is not the tape she's been referencing, is me placating to her, which i did a number of times because she would not let this tape go. >> there were a lot of times that we talked about this tape because omarosa was literally obsessed with it. she brought it up constantly. it's clear now that the reason why she did was because she was serpentisciously recording us. >> earlier this week on fox, pierson initially denied having any conversation about the existence of a possible trump "n" word tape. >>> all right, this moment yesterday, white house press secretary sarah sanders issuing a rare correction, apologizing for falsely claiming from the podium that president trump created th

katrina pierson.e known you and when they say there wasn't even fact-checked, i'm pretty shocked at the publisher to be honest, that they would allow it. >> i am too. i met omarosa through president trump and we became friends. i'm surprised she went scorched earth and all of the conversations her and i a have had as to african-americans on the campaign trail along with katrina pierson, diamond and silk and a few others. she never, ever even insinuated even remotely insinuated that the president was racist. in fact, she defended him very vigorously and she gave me talking points on episodes from her life where he was just a help to her and family members. i think her brother died and he helped then. she told me about how much he helped her before, during and after the "apprentice," helped her get a deal, kept her in his orbit, in his loop and even when she goes on to say that she was offered hush money, i don't see where somebody offering you a job, a landing space after you lose one job and they offe

tracks, one was the book and one was the evidence to support the book but i thought that katrina pierson tape was damning. she had gone on the tv the night before saying it was totally false and everything else that omarosa was saying was a lie but in that tape is real, that's pretty bad. most people at the level of office that the president is in in 2018 in this country, not only would you guess they would not be on a tape saying that word but their aides would say there is not going to be a tape of that. i think sarah sanders is being self-protective by making sure that not saying definitively this doesn't exist when she clearly doesn't know and there's clearly a doubt in someone's mind and that katrina pierson audio adds to that. >> give us a senseover what is the situation right now in this white house? we started off the week talking about how omarosa said she had these tapes because everybody lies in the white house and so you needed to make tapes of things and there was this sense of paranoia. there were concerns about what else might come out. here we are a few days in as john po

i reached out to katrina pierson about omarosa's other allegations involving her, and she said it wastotal fabrication. after cbs released that tape i then reached out to katrina pierson again, around 7:30, 8:00 this morning. she's given us an updated statement where, andrea, she says that she said that, the reason she said what they said on the tape was that it was one of the many times she would placate omarosa to move the discussion along "because i was wea weary at her obsession over this alleged tape." so it appears katrina pierson and other campaign advisers are sticking by their assertion that this alleged tape does not exist. but the american people can make up their own minds on where he stands on crucial issues of race and ethnicity. >> we should point out omarosa was the only high level african-american in the entire administration, in the white house staff, and has not been replaced. she was fired in december. ashley parker, you've been writing on these nondisclosure agreements as they apply to white house officials. and omarosa says she did not sign one, despite what was

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apparently capturing a phone call she had with then campaign spokesperson katrina pierson and senior adviser lynn patton discussing an "n" word tape, something the president has denied and how they could spin it if it came out. nbc news has not been given access to the tape and we do not know what came before or after, but listen. >> i'm trying to find out at least what context it was used in to helps us maybe try to figure out a way to spin it. >> i said, well, sir, can you think of any time that this might have happened and he said no. >> well, that's not true. so -- >> he goes, how do you think i should handle it? i told him exactly what you just said, omarosa, which is well, it depends on what scenario you're talking about. and he said, well why don't you just go ahead and put it to bed. he said it. >> last night on fox news, katrina pierson said that conversation never took places. >> no. that did not happen. it sounds like she's writing a script for a movie. i've already been out there talking about this. that is absolutely not true. i have no sources with that tape. >> she's n

. >> katrina pierson says he said it. >> did that happen?e she's writing a script for a mew viovie. this morning, manigault-newman released a snippet of the tape. >> she had a conversation with trump about whether he ever used the racial slur. >> i said, well, can you think of any time that this may have happened and he said no. >> well, that's not true. how do you think i should handle it, i told him omarosa what exactly saw said. depending on what scenario you are talking about and why don't you put it to bed >> he said it and he's embarrassed. >> a new segment pierson acknowledged there were rumors in the campaign but it was circulated by omarosa and her alone. athena jones, cnn, new york. >> thank you, athena for that. >> president trump claims the "n" word is not even in his vocabulary, i am going to ask my next guest if he believes that. sfx: [cell phone dialing] no. no, no, no, no, no. cancel. cancel. please. aaagh! being in the know is a good thing. that's why discover will alert you if your social security number is found on any one

katrina pierson: "he said. no, he said it. he is embarrassed by it." one of the staffers on the call, katrina pierson, telling cnn she was only trying to 'placate omarosa.' the president again taking to twitter denying that any tape of him using a racial slur exists, claiming, "i don't have that word in my vocabulary"the trump campaign taking legal steps against omarosa today...filing an arbitration action alleging she violated a confidentiality agreement. while cnn has not seen the agreement omarosa signed, it has obtained a copy of the non-disclosure agreement trump campaign officials signed in 2016. those who signed agreed not to disparage the president or his family, and agreed to binding arbitration if they did...the messy feud...creating an environment of paranoia in the west wing...as officials fear there could be more recordings to come...while omarosa continues her book tour... omarosa manigault-newman: "there was a lot of corruption that went on both in the campaign and in the white house and i'm going to blow the whistle on all of it." (vick

but afterwards, pierson put out a statement saying this was a rumor started by omarosa herself.rson added in the statement, quote, omarosa fabricated the story by conflating numerous discussions. within minutes of that tape being released, coincidental or not the president took to twitter and posted the following saying, quote, when you give a crazed, crying, low-life a break and give her a job at the white house, i guess it just didn't work out. good work by general kelly for quickly firing that dog. the white house battling back suggestion at the press briefings that the president's characterization went a bit too far. >> i think the president is certainly voicing his frustration with the fact that this person has shown a complete lack of integrity, particularly by the actions following her time here at the white house. reporter: now the president's 2016 campaign is now fighting back, filing an arbitration case in new york contending that omarosa broke a confidentiality agreement. that hasn't stopped her from talking though, as this afternoon she went on msnbc and made this cl

>> i'm interested to hear what katrina pierson says. it's tough to figure out another meaning to he said it, he is embarrassed. maybe there is another meaning. the denying that they confirmed with frank luntz that donald trump used that word is one thing. in some ways is a bit of a red herring. you can deny donald trump used that racial slur in that specific context. but then if you say, he said it, he is embarrassed, who else could the he be in the context of that tape you just played? i think it's important what you said at the top. sometimes you have to take a step back, as i take a step back from the weeds i was just in and say, it is not normal that we are having conversations like this about the president of the united states. we have not had this in the past. that should be the overarching theme of our coverage. yes, we should figure out the who he is referring to. but broadly speaking, as it relates to certainly as it relates to race and i would say gender as well, with this president, we are having conversations, we are through

friends and allies so let's bring our guests now joining us from rally in north carolina is robert pierson former u.s. ambassador to turkey in ankara routine at them and their rector of foreign policy research a defunct asian for political economic and social research also known as sita and from new york by skype emitter beside the sea oh and co-founder of foreign policy interrupted an organization to increase female voices in the media was a focus on foreign policy coverage thank you all for joining us robert pierson let me start with you. pastor bronson was actually detained twenty months twenty one months ago in after mass of the failed coup why is that an issue now. it's been an issue since then there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that's credible if you read the text of the testimony against him it is absolutely not believable he's supposed to be cooperating with terrorist and at the same time he's supposed to be cooperating with mr arrogance closest political ally for ten years so there is a solution to this problem if i may say so it's very straightforward mr bronson should be

friends and allies so let's bring our guests now joining us from rally in north carolina is robert pierson former u.s. ambassador to turkey in ankara routine at them and the rector of foreign policy research a defunct asian for political economic and social research also known as sita and from new york by skype emitter beside the sea oh and co-founder of foreign policy interrupted an organization to increase female voices in the media was a focus on foreign policy coverage thank you all for joining us robert pierson let me start with you. pastor bronson was actually detained twenty months twenty one months ago in after mass of the failed coup why is that an issue now. it's been an issue since then there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that's credible if you read the text of the testimony against him it is absolutely not believable he's supposed to be cooperating with terrorist and at the same time he's supposed to be cooperating with mr arrogance closest political ally for ten years so there is a solution to this problem if i may say so it's very straightforward mr bronson should be a

so the idea that she is taping someone like katrina pierson, fine. but willing to tape the chief of staff in the most sensitive room in the white house, it makes you wonder who else she would be willing to tape. especially that communication team and there is talk of tapes from jared and ivanka, and tapes of other family members that are going to potentially come out. >> late on this. this is an ethic question. it seems to be we have spend a lot of days did donald trump use the n-word back in whenever. what do you make of that hunt for that word. what do you make of it? >> i think it is silly. i don't think finding the tape is going to convince people that support trump post charlottesville that he is a racist. enough document that proves that donald trump has racist feelings in his heart. he demonstrates that every day. the fact that he tweeted and called a black woman a dog. we don't need to be on the hunt for a tape when we have evidence in our faces. and the n-word is not the only manifestation of racism. it is the every day acts of racism dimini

a spokesperson katrina pierson said the tape you heard there is taken out of context. mark burnett has not responded for comment. >> omarosa made a claim to our own katy tur if true would be of interest to special counsel bob mueller. take a listen. >> so you were instructed, according to your book to bring up the e-mails at every point you could at the end of the 2016 campaign? >> that's correct. >> hillary clinton's e-mails? >> that was our talker. >> did donald trump know about the e-mails before they came out? >> absolutely. >> he knew about them? >> yes. >> he knew about them before wikileaks? >> yes. >> you said donald trump had a back channel. >> i didn't say that, ub did. i will expose the campaign and i will continue to proceed the whistle on all of this. >> not true. he didn't know. i know he didn't know. >> if he did in. >> i know it beyond being his lawyer. >> if he knew, is it a problem? >> no, and but, he didn't know. i'm not even going to get into a hypothetical. he did not know. >> omarosa did not offer everyday to back up that claim. it is not in her b

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katrina pierson said she thought he actually said it. >> no, that did not happen. sounds like she's writing a script for a movie. >> i'm trying to find out at least the context. to help us maybe figure out a way to spin it. >> i said, well, sir, can you think of any time that this might have happened? and he said no. >> well, that's not true. >> how do you think i should handle it? and i told him exactly what you just said, which is, well, it k depends on what scenario you're talking about. he said, why don't you just go ahead and put it to bed. he said it. he's embarrassed. >> you have everything you say in the book backed up by tape or e-mail? >> absolutely. if you see it in quotes, it can be verified. >> last hour, one of the aides you just saw released a statement. katrina pierson writes in part, in her secret tape recording of me, it was one of many times i would placate omarosa to move her along because i was weary of her obsession over this alleged tape. nancy cook, a white house reporter for politico. danny cevallos is an msnbc legal analyst. john me chum,

this time, featuring trump campaign staffers lynne patton and katrina pierson, discussing a rumor thatresident trump was caught on tape using the n-word. >> i've said, well, first, can you think of any time that this might have happened? he said, no. >> that's not true. >> not the way you just said, omarosa, it depends on what scenario you are talking about, and he said, why don't you just go ahead and put it to bed? i said -- he's a menace. >> laura: president trump vehemently denies that he's ever been caught on tape using a racial slur. joining me now for reaction was one of the people you've heard on that recording, lynne patton. currently a senior advisor too housing and urban development secretary ben carson there. great to see you, lynne. thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> great to be here, laura. thank you. >> laura: tell us about that conversation that took place, the recording we just heard, part of a recording from october of 2016.f omarosa, you come and katrina pierson. >> first i want to start off by saying, thank you so much for re-tweeting my statement last nig

friends and allies so let's bring our guests now joining us from rally in north carolina is robert pierson former u.s. ambassador to turkey in ankara routine at them and their rector of foreign policy research a defunct asian for political economic and social research also known as sita and from new york by skype emitter beside the sea oh and co-founder of foreign policy interrupted an organization to increase female voices in the media was a focus on foreign policy coverage thank you all for joining us robert pierson let me start with you. pastor bronson was actually detained twenty months twenty one months ago in after mass of the failed coup why is that an issue now. it's been an issue since then there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that's credible if you read the text of the testimony against him it is absolutely not believable he's supposed to be cooperating with terrorist and at the same time he's supposed to be cooperating with mr arrogance closest political ally for ten years so there is a solution to this problem if i may say so it's very straightforward mr bronson should be

friends and allies so let's bring our guests now joining us from rally in north carolina is robert pierson former u.s. ambassador to turkey in ankara routine at them and the rector of foreign policy research a defunct asian for political economic and social research also known as sita and from new york by skype emitter beside the c.e.o. and co-founder of foreign policy interrupted an organization to increase female voices in the media was a focus on foreign policy coverage thank you all for joining us robert pierson let me start with you. pastor bronson was actually detained twenty months twenty one months ago in after mass of the failed coup why is that an issue now. it's been an issue since then there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that's credible if you read the text of the testimony against him it is absolutely not believable he's supposed to be cooperating with terrorist and at the same time he's supposed to be cooperating with mr arrogance closest political ally for ten years so there is a solution to this problem if i may say so it's very straightforward mr bronson should be a

the recording reveals how members of the campaign how to spin this with spokeswoman katrina pierson,he president is embarrassed for using a racial slur. a couple important notes, cbs could not verify this particular tape's authenticity which they played on cbs this morning today. there is no evidence, as of yet that the president actually used the word. no hard evidence. no tape of the president using the "n-word." pierson said, in a statement afterwards, today, that discussion was nothing other than sifting through unconfirmed rumors of app prentice tape. omarosa fabricated the story. omarosa continues to defend taping of many of these white house campaign conversations. >> yes, i'm the kind of person who covers her own back and in trump world everyone lies. i wanted to have this type of documentation so that in the event the president had never heard these accusations they discussed it at high levels of the trump campaign. reporter: the president meanwhile also continues to target former fbi agent peter strzok who was fired yesterday and the probe into his presidency, and russian c

this conversation is between several campaign officials including katrina pierson the trump campaign spokeswoman. katrina will be on our show in just a moment. first to the white house. the president was adamant. why don't sanders guarantee, why won't she say he didn't use that racist word? >> that's the he request on everyone's mind here. the president was definitive and clear in his tweet last night saying that word is not in his vocabulary. it seemed like a simple request for the press secretary to say she is quite sure no tape will come out of the president uttering that word. instead sarah said she never heard him say it, that he had said he never said it but she wouldn't state definitively we will never hear president trump saying that word in an audio recording. she also made stunning remarks while fielding questions about omarosa's book. when she was asked about the president referring to one of the top african-american officials in this white house, someone who made $179,000 per year one of the highest salaries you can earn here in the west wing, referring to her as a dog as

. >> pierson denied the call ever took place during an interview on fox news monday night. >> katrina cursed and said, he said it. did that happen? >> no, ed, that did not happen. it sounds like she's writing a script for a movie. >> reporter: the white house and trump campaign have not provided a response to this new development but just minutes ago, pierson and patton issued a joint statement saying no one ever denied the existence of conversations about a reported "a betwe "apprentice tape." of course there were multiple discussions about it. they claim they were only denying one specific conference call with frank huluntz who has denied ever hearing an alleged trump tape. >> omarosa is with us. her new memoir "unhinged" is published by a division of simon and schuster which is owned by cbs. good morning. >> good morning. >> let's start with the tape. you said you had done some taping when you were fired to protect yourself. >> uh-huh. >> but this is during the campaign. >> absolutely. >> why are you taping things in the middle of the campaign? >> the moment we start talking about

omarosa is claiming multiple officials, inging pierson, discussed the tape., omarosa is being intentionally dishonest in order to sell her new book. first, i have never heard the president ever use the derogatory language that omarosa claims. also, i never confirmed the existence of an alleged tape to her as she has claimed. in my personal experience, president trump and his family have always been kind, generous, thoughtful, and respectful to me, and to other people of color. joining me now to discuss all of this is ben jealous, the democrat running to be the next democrat of maryland. lisa and franchesca are back with me, as well. thank you for being here, ben. let's pick up on that point. we know the democrats are going to want to seize on some of the claims made by omarosa. she never made these claims when she was in the white house. in fact, even in the days after she left, she didn't make these claims. does she have a credibility problem here and, therefore, is it something the democrats need to stay away from actually? >> yeah, look, i don't think ther

alleged tape with lynn patton, an assistant to eric trump and former trump campaign spokeswoman katrina pierson. >> he goes how do you think i should handle it and i told him it depends on what scenario you're talking about and he said well, why don't you just go ahead and put it to bed. he said it. he's embarrassed. >> reporter: white house press secretary sarah sanders denied the allegations and criticized the secret taping of private conversations. >> this has absolutely nothing to do with race and everything to do with the president calling out someone's lack of integrity. >> reporter: the trump action claiming omarosa broke her 2016 confidentiality agreement. >> i think that the best play for omarosa would have been to take credit for a lot of the great things that donald trump has done for this country including for african americans. >> reporter: in a series of tweets tuesday, the president referred to his former aide as a crazed crying low life and a dog. nicole killian, cbs news, the white house. >>> here in california if someone wants to record a telephone conversation, everybody on t

campaign about the alleged "n" word tape with other aides, including with then-spokesperson katrina pierson who seemed to address the charges. >> he said it. he's embarrassed. >> reporter: prson says the conversation is incorrectly characterized. "apprentice" producer mark burnett did not respond to our request for comment. they are planning to gshut her down by forcer into arbitration over a non-disclosure agreement. as the voicesow, including actor tom arnold and aan me lester. >> she had a lot to say, not just issues of race today. she tald aboutther accusations against the president. what were they? >> reporter: she d, lester. manigault newman said has hns interviewed by the special counsel and'ded she would be willing to speak with him again and turn over her tapes. pand anotherential bombshell, manigault newman said the president knew aut e e-mails stolen from the clinton campaign before they were released by wikileakseclined to give any evidence. no response from the white house or the special cnsel about all of that. >> all right. kristen welker at the white house. thanks. n >>> ove

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-- where pierson said she áknewá he used the word.n: "that is absolutely not true. i have no sources with that tape. she was the only one who brought this tape up. people that i've checked with who she mentioned has no idea what she is talking about."while defending himself against omarosa's attacks -- president trump apparently confirming white house staffers are asked to sign non-disclosure agreements. omarosa claims the trump campaign offered her a fifteen- thousand dollar a month job in exchange for signing an n-d-a -- where she would have to "promise and agree to not demean or disparage" the administration and trump family members.omarosa: "i never signed that draconian nda that they presented to me when i walked into the white house." omarosa coming under fire for secretly recording a conversation with chief of staff john kelly in the white house situation room -- áandá a phone call she had with president trump after being fired.trump: "omarosa, what's going on? i just saw on the news that you're thinking leaving? what happened?

saying and i quote -- so that is from katrina pierson moments ago. as for omarosa herself on cbs news this morning, she continued to defend the practice of recording conversations. >> yes, i'm the kind of person who covers her own back, in trump world, everyone lies, everyone says one thing one day and change their story the next day. i wanted to have this type of documentation so that in the event i found myself in this position where as you said they're questioning my credibility saying they never discussed the "n" word tape, never heard the accusations, the president never heard the accusations when, in fact, this tape proves they discussed it at high levels of the trump campaign. i've been in politics for 20 years, everybody lies in politics. i worked in the clinton administration during the monica lewinsky scandal where he first said he never had relations with her and we found out that was a lie. i learned very early on in politics that this is a cut throat world and you have to be tough. 20 years in politics, and i've learned lessons. number o

pierson initially denying the conversation took place.hen omarosa released a recording of the call. >> if at any time this had to happened, and he said no. >> that's not true. >> he said it, well, why, he was just embarrassed. >> your viewers i'm pretty sure has run into a individual who is the complete epitome of annoying. you have to give in so you can get on with your day. she pointed out that she was denying the call that president trump used the n word. >> there was a lot of times we talked about this tape because she was obsessed with it and brought it up constantly. >> the legal team is suing her for a nonlitigation -- good work by general kelly for firing that dog. >> this has nothing to do with race. the president's an equal opportunity person that calls things like he sees it. he always fights fire with fire. >> at least one republican senator is pushing back on president trump's tweet. senator jeff flake says this kind of language should not be okay. >> we also want to bring in john avlon and eril lewis. i cannot get over what

katrina pierson, the, ys on thag that she communicated with him and that he had heard it.rly in this chapter about what happened between katrina and frank luntz. he's absolutely right. i never spoke to him, never reached out to him. i was simply reporting what was on the tape -- >> he said it's not true. but why do you want to work in a world, as you say, where everybody lies? why do you want to be -- >> i've been in politics for 20 years. everybody lies in politics. i worked in the clinton administration during the monica lewinsky scandal when he first said he never had relations with her and we found out that that was a lie. i learned very early on in politics that this is a cutthroat world and you have to be tough. 20 years in the white -- in politics and i've learned some lessons. number one, you have to look out for yourself. and two, things change. relationships change. and people always protect themselves. you have to look out for yourself. >> there are conflicting reports as to when you first heard the tape where the president allegedly uses the n word. there are r

. >> omarosa says it is not in her book because she heard it after it was written pierson initially conditioning the conversation took place. >> that did not happen, it sounds like she is writing a script for a movie. >> asked if he could remember any time it happens, and she says no. >> your viewers, i'm pretty sure, have run into a individual that is the complete epitome of annoying to where you have to give in to get on with your day, omarosa is a bully. >> pat ton saying she never denied the conversation took lace, but she was not confirming in the call that he used the n word. >> there is a lot of times we caulked about it because she was obsessed with it and she brought it up constantly. >> i have to be careful because as of today, donald trump is bringing litigation against me to silence me. this comes at the president says on twitter good job to general kelly for quickly firing that dog. >> this has slously nothing to do with race. the president is an equal opportunity person that calls things like he sees it. he always fights fire with fire. >> one republican senate sere responding to t

he sub tweeted katrina pierson tweet, perfect.exico. are any pure breeds left? elise, these are people that donald trump surrounds himself with. these are people that donald trump is perfectly fine with and, you know, it is not just that he's using the "n" word, it is that they're trying to spin it the best way they can spin it, and the person trying to spin it is saying publicly she's discussed it, that there are no, quote, pure breeds left. >> well, that's really big picture i think what we should take away from this episode. it is not really about omarosa so much, just as it is about someone who came in, was clearly opportunistic, with no loyalty. as soon as she decides the trump bandwagon isn't staying hitched to -- i mean shifs firee was fi too -- jumped ship and would rather take a payout every month. so you see with her what other trump officials will probably do in the coming months and years. they're going to also come out with their own stories and disavow as they all try to take care of themselves because donald trump h

court press not just from the white house but the president's allies on the outside including katrina pierson who is in omarosa's book. this is how she denies those allegations. >> that is absolutely not true. i have no sources with that tape, no connections to anyone at "celebrity apprentice" other than omarosa and she was the only one that brought this tape u up. >> so, again, omarosa claim she is has tapes that bolster her side of the story. the question is who to believe in all of this and clearly nun of it is going away. this book to you are is just getting under way. the book is out today and she continues her appearances this week. >> the president is fight this he said/she said bat with omarosa and then he's fighting with jeff sessions. a big attack yesterday. this morning he says we need a real attorney general slamming jeff sessions. why? >> the president with a series of tweets about the russia investigation but he won't lay off of attorney general jeff sessions saying if we had a real attorney general this witch-hunt would never be started. this continues to be part of a crusade o

where we talked about the possibility of him saying, andis own spokesperson, katrina pierson, said ile source that yes he said it. actually heard the tape? >> absolutely. >> let's get into it.on how is this tape? >> there are multiple let's establish that. when you read my book tomorrow which is available tomorrow "unhinged" you'll see there are three different sources who corroborate the differentngs he said. >> you said since the book was published you have heard it. how long was the tape? >> about three minutes. >> audio or video? audio. >> okay. what is the context? >> i'm going to allow you and most americans to read the book. >> this isn't in the book. >> the talk about the n-word tape is throughout thebo . have you read the book? >> yes, but -- >> i answered that question. at's the next question. >> i was curious, the context in he presidentlege used the n-word. >> talking about some african-americansn the production during the course of the "the apprentis" which unacceptable. here's the thing, why don't we ask donald trump a simple question. donald j. trump,ave you eve used t

on the payroll who can be charitably described as trump's hanger onto lewandowski and to katrina pierson in some cases, it is not clear what they are doing for the entity and it does raise some question in some donors' minds if they are being paid to keep them from turning on the president. there are donors that are not willing to go star to say this would stop them from continuing to give, they want some answers. >> you report your story and willingness to slowly deploy the tape for maximum effect is straight for mr. trump's play book. elaborate. >> ciyeah, this goes back to th birth certificate crusade that brought trump to the republican politics. the suggestion that somehow there is some smoking gun that either trump or in this case omarosa has access to will bring their arrivals the their knees and expose them as frauds. this is a trump tactic and so far some of the tapes we heard including the one that you just played of you and your team got of lara trump, they are revealing but they're not bomb shells and omarosa continues to suggest that she may have that bomb shell. that's a co

so i do find it a little bit interesting that candace owens, katrina pierson, to lovely african-americanomen, instead of focusing on the fact that tomorrow is equal pay day for black woman, are focused on this issue when we have such an incredible opportunity to highlight the disparity in pay that black women receive, that they actually have to work until august 7th to get the same equal pay as their white, male counterparts. trish: that is another conversation. >> they have a platform. they could be focused on that. trish: we're talking about twitter, whether they basically are willing to clamp down on one group of people because they're conservative and not another group of people because they're liberal. it seems, like you know, you woe want, deroy murdoch is here as well, some fairness across the board. >> of course. trish: no tolerance for any kind of hate speech period. it doesn't matter which side it is coming from. i think twitter has proven, for whatever reason are a little bit more careful and cautious with anybody who is conservative as opposed to a liberal? >> if there is any

those people on that tape, lynn patton and katrina pierson, both initially denied that that episode ever happened. they denied that there was a conference call in which they discussed this episode at all. then omarosa released the tape. by later that afternoon they both appeared on cnn last night and they totally changed their story. this is what they had to say. >> she really was a dog with a bone when it came to this tape. it got to the point where we had a campaign to run. what you hear in that tape, which is not the tape she's been referencing, is me placating to her, which i did a number of times, because she would not let this tape go. >> there were a lot of times that we talked about this tape because omarosa was literally obsessed with it. she brought it up constantly. it is clear now the reason why she did is because she was surreptitiously recording us. >> first, those conversations never happened, now they happened but they happened because of omarosa. it is all coming down to who can you believe here. is it the former white house staffer who's turned on her boss, or the curre

the 2016 campaign about the alleged tape with other aides including with then spokesperson katrina pierson. >> he said it. no. he said it. he is embarrassed. >> reporter: overnight, she said the comments were taken out of context. >> it is not real. that's the whole point. >> reporter: in another revelation, newman says she's been interviewed by the special counsel and is open to meeting again. >> if he calls me, i certainly will participate with anything that he needs. >> reporter: adding that candidate trump absolutely knew about the e-mails stolen from the clinton campaign before they were released by wikileaks. but declined to give any details. >> i'm going to expose the corruption that went on in the campaign and in the white house. i'm going to continue to blow the whistle on all of this. >> reporter: overnight, the president's attorney insisting mr. trump had no prior knowledge of the wikileaks e-mail dump. >> she is lying because i was on the campaign. more than she was. >> kristin welker reporting there. all this is going on as the trump campaign files a complaint against manigaul

might have said or learning something new about their boss, the tape that omarosa released of katrina pierson, a spokeswoman on his campaign and another top adviser, lynn patton, discussing the potential existence of the "n" word tape saying he's said it, he's embarrassed shows in her mission for publicity and payback, she's willing to embarrass former colleagues along the way so the people i spoke to said for the people who interact with her a lot, which is mostly on the communications staff, it's this feeling every morning that it looks like she's going to trickle them out and this feeling like, oh, god, what did i say that i don't remember. >> here's the thing, and we have to remember. these people all work at the white house voluntarily. omarosa told the two of us that the communications team on a daily basis crafts lies that they put up and the president tells, ivanka trump said after the "access hollywood" tape she had never heard her father speak that way but found i jarring. how can any of them continue this nonsense narrative when you line up when the president does day in and day ou