so this pierson of being in the room and doing what i needed to do and saying what i needed to do andfter a speech people will come up and start talking to me and forced me to engagement and that work into my life i became more and more willing to talk to folks because they didn't know me. and when i was doing my that public health work and - but i a group of people sometimes large and maul groups of people i needed to engage with them. >> which i found myself doing from the pull petty had things to say to people and i learned how to be you know, a public person with whatever congregation i was working with but sometimes would hold back in the morning that kind of thing and it takes a lot of energy to be up front you know, and so but then once i would get through it reluctance to be engaged always wonderful conversations that people seem to joy. seems even any grandchildren bus that's pretty rare they enjoy my conversation (laughter). >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> okay. so i want to kind of do in rapid fire questions with short answers or kind of short comments shot out questions to you gua

joining me now doug schoen democratic strategist and pollster and cj pierson co-chair of the g.o.p.isory council. doug, let's start with you. what happened to this party, the democrat party in they weren't always like. this no. it wasn't when i worked for bill clinton as you mentioned in your angle we sought to differentiate ourselves with policies that reflected what the american people wanted. smaller government, balanced budget, reducing spending and reducing debt. right now the party is unrecognizable. has no message, has no strategy. is rudderless and frankly i thought was embarrassing itself with its behavior, laura. when the joint session of congress was a very moving address. >> well, c.j., instead of urging that, you don't do what al the raging cane green did. they celebrated him today. with a we shall overcome like he was thrown out because of his race? again, clinging to the racial polarization which i guess they think worked in 2020 to some extent. it isn't working today. not with the multi-cultural party that the republican party is becoming. >> no, laura, you are exact

so this pierson of being in the room and doing what i needed to do and saying what i needed to do and after a speech people will come up and start talking to me and forced me to engagement and that work into my life i became more and more willing to talk to folks because they didn't know me. and when i was doing my that public health work and - but i a group of people sometimes large and maul groups of people i needed to engage with them. >> which i found myself doing from the pull petty had things to say to people and i learned how to be you know, a public person with whatever congregation i was working with but sometimes would hold back in the morning that kind of thing and it takes a lot of energy to be up front you know, and so but then once i would get through it reluctance to be engaged always wonderful conversations that people seem to joy. seems even any grandchildren bus that's pretty rare they enjoy my conversation (laughter). >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> okay. so i want to kind of do in rapid fire questions with short answers or kind of short comments shot out questions to you g