pilpal? >> as an individual i agree with jack's summary, this is complicated, what jack didn't mention is there is litigation over the prior agreement, which people may litigate further, in fact i think there is still one lawsuit, that is at the court of appeal last week we will see what happens with that. you know i spend a lot of time reading this and thinking about these issues. and i am not clear in my mind whether this is the best approach, a lot of me thinks, that the waste we generate in the city, we should bring it to the local landfill rather than transportation -- hay road is the next one out. at the same time i think the rate payers shouldn't pay more than necessary, and we should minimize other environmental impacts, so eyou get into weighting, different criteria and coming up with the best solution with admittedly, all bad solutions, we shouldn't be sleping things to landfills, that's where we are right now, hopefully, we will get to 0 waste and not have substantial contribution

pilpal. public further comments, seeing none comments closed. further discussion, colleagues? seeing none, we will call the question all those in favor of approve, say aye >> aye. >> aye's have it. approved. thank you. next item monica. >> update on agreement for disposal of san francisco solid waste, solano county. and document in your packet is the san francisco sold waste disposal agree. commercial 0 waste coordinator, and report and discussion >> thank you. this item is informational, there is no action you need to take but in order to set the context better, i have asked guermo rodriguez gir ger row -- guiemollermo -- give >> given this is a dynamic lawyer to lawyer discussion we basically became comfortable with the language to move forward. just this past friday to give you a sense you are seeing this and the public is seeing this for the first time and we acknowledge that. as pokes know, the contract for the ultimate landfill started in 1987. it expires, when the cumulative total of 15 million tons of waste, has been generated and land filled, the department has done a

administrative pass-through correspondence matters in the 90s when i was on the task force with david pilpal and we tried to have a committee secretary shared by the two, that was rejected, later on we tried for half time when i was chair of the ethics commission and, that failed. this is an example i think to consider for the future, thank you. >> okay. thank you. >> your last comment, i am seeing the context of our legislation. but they are not actually not related necessarily. >> next speaker please? >> washington, and i always make my announcement because i am in the retirement stage of an activity but changing over to an entrepreneur, but i am very interested and supportive of this legislation. and of any kind of government oversight, and let me just say, case in point, i just left the committee meeting of the tap where you get your permits and this was not my first time but going there there, no minutes kept and no recording of the public testimony and i think that is a violation of that ordinance there and i am supportive of anything that put the strict government oversight and now le