he's mohamed el-erian c.e.o. of pimco, the world's biggest bond fund. >> happy new year, susie. >> susie: so you say the numbers were good today but not good enough. what do you need to see happen for you to be more positive about the outlook for the economy? >> first, we should welcome these numbers. these were good numbers. we create 200,000 jobs and hourly earnings and hours worked went up. that's a really good set of developments but it's not good enough. that's what the market told us today. and understandably so because of the headwinds and the three particular head winds the markets are worried about. first the growth we've will over the last few months have been fueled by lower savings rates lowered the amounts they saved an and that's not sustainable and in europe factory output declined by the most in germany in a number of years and in addition italian interest rates went up 7% and finally the global system continues to delever. good news is welcome but it has to be really really good news in order to reach wha