moreover, pinckney argued this country was not capable of being astivated by white men, appeared on the attempt made by georgia. ralph izzard, however, a planter and senator from south carolina, was not convinced slaves would always remain invaluable. izzard imagined in a 1784 letter that what would happen if, the same horrid tragedies among our need grows, which have been so fatally exhibited in the french islands in the haitian revolution, work to a court in america? he predicted proprietors of need grows themselves be the instruments of destroying that species of property. rather than see their property population freed in south carolina, or any other american colony. slaveowners, including founding fathers like washington, jefferson and madison, made a calculated choice to perpetuate the institution of african bondage, and they used violence and the threat of death to sustain it. to be clear, africans in the diaspora only attempted to kill whites in order to free themselves and their families from enslavement. and if slaves from africa were successful in killing white oppressors, th

. >> host: john in michigan, your town is -- >> caller: pinckney. >> host: where is that located? >> caller: that is located between lansing and detroit. my comment is what i see here on the pbs is typical of all this bs going on in this country. this all started because the people in flint did not pay their water bills. their water bills weren't $300 a month. that was in a cumulation because they weren't paying them in because they weren't paying their water bills they had to switch to somebody else and they could not continue with the detroit water. you can play this anyway you want but what it boils down to is there's a bunch of freeloaders in this country that are trying to turn this country into a socialist country. >> host: let's take your point. did the start with water bills not being paid? >> guest: no, this was not the result of water bills not being paid. at the time flint did not need a new water supply and cannot afford to pay to get a new water supply. this was very much a decision made by state officials and powerbrokers in the region who wanted this new pipeline to

caller: pinckney. host: ok, where is that located? caller: between lansing and detroit. host: ok. caller: my comment is, what i see here on pbs is a typical -- goingical of all these bs on in this country. this all started because the people in flint did not pay heir water bills, period. their water bills were not $300 a month, that was an accumulation because they weren't paying them. and because they weren't paying their water bills, they had to switch to something else. they couldn't continue with the detroit water. you can play this anywhere you want, but what it all boils down to is, there's is a bunch of freeloaders in this country that are trying to turn this country into a socialist country. host: ok. john, did this start with water bills being paid? guest: now. this is not a result of water bills not being paid. in fact, at the time, flint did not need a new water supply, and also could not afford to get a new water supply. this was very much a decision made by state officials and powerbrokers in the region who want to the pipeline to go through. our reporting has found t

. >> guest: it is charles pinckney from north carolina. the other person who says he considers politics fun, and there might be others floating around but i read a lot of 18th century political correspondent and haven't come across it more than those two team time. >> host: you said year hamilton union. what does that sunshine doesn't mean i agree with hamilton. means -- i am someone who finds him -- always found him fascinating, so hamilton union -- hamiltonian in the sense i have spent time and energy trying to understand him and why and what he did and i would say same a hamiltonian scholar us a because i think many scholars find a question or a person or problem that sort of grabs them, and there were many that have grabbed me but he is someone who grabbed me at an early point. so i'm aham -- a hamilton-curious scholar. >> host: besides a ten dollar bell and a relative live well-known musical, what's his legacy. >> guest: one thing at the time he was known for and has had i suppose in some ways in the long-term a mixed legacy but at th

caller: pinckney. host: ok, where is that located? caller: between lansing and detroit. host: ok. my comment is, what i see here on pbs is a typical -- goingical of all these bs on in this country. this all started because the people in flint did not pay heir water bills, period. their water bills were not $300 a month, that was an accumulation because they weren't paying them. and because they weren't paying their water bills, they had to switch to something else. they couldn't continue with the detroit water. you can play this anywhere you want, but what it all boils down to is, there's is a bunch of freeloaders in this country that are trying to turn this country into a socialist country. host: ok. john, did this start with water bills being paid? guest: now. this is not a result of water bills not being paid. in fact, at the time, flint did not need a new water supply, and also could not afford to get a new water supply. this was very much a decision made by state officials and powerbrokers in the region who want to the pipeline to go through. our reporting has found that it w