i just had a conversation just abouta i week ago and it was a fascinating new model to look at pine resins, actually, in mexico and other parts of latin america, and it's a sustainable source of revenue for community and one of the things that he said that i thought was actually very wise, and i think i've heard it from other individuals in the environmental movement is that if it's between feeding your family and a tree, the tree always loses, and i think that one of the thicks thngs that we to create the opportunities that are sustainable where communities have adequate information to make good decisions, i think that understanding and really giving a financial value to the biodiversity and to the natural resources of the countries is extraordinarily necessary. it's becoming popular, but it's necessary and that it's needed. the reason is that in the place like latin america where i work you have some of the richest biodiversity in the world and to a great extent in the indigenous communities they've done an excellent job through land resource management and they understand the notion of

conversation with an environmentalist about a week ago and the fascinating new model to look at pine resins sustainable source of revenue for communities. one of the things that he said that i thought was actually very wise and i think i've heard it actually from other individuals is that between feeding your family and a tree, the tree often loses. i think that one of the things that we have to really create our opportunities that are sustainable, where communities have adequate information to make good decisions. i think that understanding and really giving a financial value to biodiversity and to the natural resources of the countries is extraordinarily -- necessary. is becoming popular but it's necessary and it's needed. you have some of the richest biodiversity in the world and to a great extent certainly indigenous communities are very aware of that. they have done an excellent job and land resource management and they understand the notion of seven generations out and how you need to protect these ur