this area is a pipeline to pinehaven. and charlie duke gets the approval of prosecutors and judges to make it happen, to a facility with abuse allegations and employees without any certification or licensing from the state of montana. >> i personally know teachers that are there, that are certified teachers from the state of illinois. >> but they're in montana. and the point being, these kids are troubled and they need counseling and there's no one trained to counsel them. does that bother you? >> i believe they get the counseling they need. when they have a nuclear family structure -- >> i understand they have that structure. but i'm asking you, just as a public servant here in illinois, you operate by rules and regulations of this state, do you think they should have licensed counselors at pinehaven? >> i really feel like you're trying to trap me into saying something -- >> you can say yes or no. >> -- that i'm not even comfortable talking about. >> you can say yes or no or you don't know. >> i don't know. >> reporter:

the only people that look over pinehaven is pinehaven. >> reporter: if teachers and counselors were certified and licensed by the state of montana, could they have helped to prevent or deal with horri horrifying situations? james mason says he was sodomized by another student. >> i was raped. i never told anybody that. he threatened me with pliers to my throat and testicles if i would ever tell anybody. >> the stories have a counterpoint. but it doesn't bode well for pinehaven. that kent said he applied pressure points. >> did he say when they couldn't do that longer? >> not of the timetable. we were told by some the day they arrived. bob larson says it was a long time ago but he can't remember when he told kent. >> stunning stuff. gary, thanks. >>> incredible moments on a flight to tell you about. passengers wrestled the plane's pilot to the floor after he apparently started talking erratically talking about bringing the plane down. hear what happened next. you'll be delighted to discover how good they taste. chocolate lemonade ? susie's lemonade... the movie. or... we make it pink ! with th

so who oversees pinehaven, pinehaven oversees pinehaven. is responsible to make sure that the teachers are good, the counselors are good and your kids behave? >> i am. >> reporter: he says he has it licensed out of state but not in montana which is one of many states where the government has no oversight of religious schools. the montana legislature considered a bill to require religious school oversight. but this former state legislator fought the attempt to regulate pinehaven. >> the truth is, i did not know the breadth and depth of what was going on. >> reporter: but now she's trying to get the legislature to reverse that vote because she believes pinehaven has indeed abused children. >> that doesn't sound very christian to me. >> reporter: bob larsson denies abuse of his students, but acknowledge unpleasant problems in the past. a former employee was accused of raping two underaged students. he pled guilty and went to prison. could trained and licensed staff have spotted clues in that teacher's behavior? could they have helped prevent o

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