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there will be 11 ping pong tables, and we will determine the best ping-pong player from the city and county of san francisco. how about that in september? [applause] >> now, we are going to play. before we do, i would like to ask peter to come up from the united states table tennis association. they have a gift for you that will help you maybe this afternoon. so peter, can you make this quickly? mayor lee? >> on behalf of usa table tennis, we would like to present to the mayor this anniversary paddle. 40 anniversary ping-pong diplomacy, july 1-8, 2011, milwaukee, san francisco, richard nixon library from usa table tennis and suitable for autographing on the back so you can get some signatures while your there. thank you. mayor lee: thank you. >> thank you for hosting. >> now, what we have all been waiting for. i think we are ready to play. mayor lee, are you ready? are you going to play? ok, great. and this is a veteran of the 1971 exhibit. [applause] >> we are going to add the doubles. [applause] yes, you, too. this is the future now. the future and the past. >> [inaudible] [applaus
there will be 11 ping pong tables, and we will determine the best ping-pong player from the city and county of san francisco. how about that in september? [applause] >> now, we are going to play. before we do, i would like to ask peter to come up from the united states table tennis association. they have a gift for you that will help you maybe this afternoon. so peter, can you make this quickly? mayor lee? >> on behalf of usa table tennis, we would like to present to the mayor this...
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i'm a 1960 olympian, but i as swimming, not in ping-pong. i am the president and ceo of the san francisco bay organizing committee. we are so honored to be part of this 40th anniversary celebration of ping-pong diplomacy, and we are honored to welcome the delegation from china. welcome. the promotion of peace and good sports is one of our missions. ping-pong diplomacy is what i love about the will of the games because it brings the world together through sport. ping-pong diplomacy is probably the best demonstration of the power of sport in diplomacy over the past 50 years, so i congratulate all of you. i should say it is important for all of us to remember the past. we had a wonderful party last night watching the fireworks, and i got a fortune cookie, and my fortune said this -- "good fortune will come to those who treasure items from the past." that is what we are doing here today with the celebration of ping-pong diplomacy. i would like to introduce some of the guests who are in the audience who will not speak but be introduced. the presi
i'm a 1960 olympian, but i as swimming, not in ping-pong. i am the president and ceo of the san francisco bay organizing committee. we are so honored to be part of this 40th anniversary celebration of ping-pong diplomacy, and we are honored to welcome the delegation from china. welcome. the promotion of peace and good sports is one of our missions. ping-pong diplomacy is what i love about the will of the games because it brings the world together through sport. ping-pong diplomacy is probably...
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for those of you who have ping- pong in your hearts, come out and give it a try. commissioner buell: thank you. that concludes my report. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, public comment is close. we are on item 3. >> thank you, commissioners. we have a number of items today. i will try to move as quickly as i can. we completed another successful summer at the recreation and parks department. we had over 60 summer camps that included both before care and aftercare programming and they ranged from our traditional camps to our new adventure camps, which included surfing, mountain biking, and skateboarding. the summer program is becoming a great success. we have received a lot of positive feedback. our camps are extremely affordable. the scholarship program is thriving. wheat served 16,000 registrants overall. fall registration is going on now. you can sign up onliine, at any of the nine major rec centers, or mclaren lodge. we registered over 4000 people for our program in the first three hours. it was a new record for the department. next week i will be j
for those of you who have ping- pong in your hearts, come out and give it a try. commissioner buell: thank you. that concludes my report. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, public comment is close. we are on item 3. >> thank you, commissioners. we have a number of items today. i will try to move as quickly as i can. we completed another successful summer at the recreation and parks department. we had over 60 summer camps that included both before care and aftercare...
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you think the scene at this basketball game was ugly, oh, be grateful it wasn't ping-pong in the '70sy, check it out. she's using the mr. clean magic eraser bath scrubber. i've heard of it, but i haven't seen one up close. what's the word around the sink? that it removes 3 times more soap scum per swipe, and it came from outer space. it is not from outer space! no, man, it's from outer space. they're aliens on an intergalactic cleanliness mission. they're here to clean up the universe. oh, the kitchen scrubbers are aliens, too? yeah, look at that greasy kitchen mess. everybody's in on the cleanspiracy, man. i can't even trust myself. [ male announcer ] mr. clean magic eraser kitchen and bath scrubbers. the clean is out of this world. now you can have up to 28 days of beautiful smooth skin with new veet wax strips. veet hair coating technology removes hair as short as 2 millimeters and leaves your skin smooth for up to four weeks. try getting that with a razor. so whether you're going out, or just hanging out, you'll always be putting your best skin forward with veet. veet. what beauty
you think the scene at this basketball game was ugly, oh, be grateful it wasn't ping-pong in the '70sy, check it out. she's using the mr. clean magic eraser bath scrubber. i've heard of it, but i haven't seen one up close. what's the word around the sink? that it removes 3 times more soap scum per swipe, and it came from outer space. it is not from outer space! no, man, it's from outer space. they're aliens on an intergalactic cleanliness mission. they're here to clean up the universe. oh, the...
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if we did something like what they use with ping-pong paddles -- carbon fiber on the inside, would on the outside. -- wood on the outside. i understand the word is getting too thin. but if we had this on top, and then you had the finishing top surface wood on top, it would just be repair. it adds strength and adds bounce. structurally, it is more stable. it is a classic example of how in architecture they use plywood instead of plank wood. we did repair work there that would have that carbon fiber player going across. and on the top, top sheet wood. that could take the abuse of the extensive use in the facility. that was one part. another part of wanted to bring in has to do with the repair work at the chinese playground. i have been tried to get that tennis court done for a long time. it has been patched up, the borders are over elevated from pavement work. i wonder what it never gets done. i talked to dr. lee about it, and he wants to hit tennis balls there, has been a long time chinatown tennis club member. a lot of people want to use the facility, but it is not really up to grade.
if we did something like what they use with ping-pong paddles -- carbon fiber on the inside, would on the outside. -- wood on the outside. i understand the word is getting too thin. but if we had this on top, and then you had the finishing top surface wood on top, it would just be repair. it adds strength and adds bounce. structurally, it is more stable. it is a classic example of how in architecture they use plywood instead of plank wood. we did repair work there that would have that carbon...
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. >> reporter: they even had the police out here playing ping- pong. i thought a month ago, a 3- month-old baby was killed in a drive-by shooting. we return the that had to be turned around the city -- to tell you how that turned around this city. >> a girl was there an hour ago in oakland when mayor jean quan pics celebrated initiatives to set a state record with our own hideout block party tonight -- her own block party tonight. you can find more information and a complete list of national night out events happening tonight around the bay area by looking under the section when you get to a homepage at ktvu.com. >>> officers suspended a search for a suspect after a long way freeway chase -- a wrong way freeway chase played a suspect got into the freeway going eastbound on westbound 580. add a couple miles he got out of the vehicle and san leandro. >>> be released today shows details on how phillip and nancy griego interacted with young girls. >> that's it. can you go all the way down? >> this is one of a report released by the el dorado county d.a. th
. >> reporter: they even had the police out here playing ping- pong. i thought a month ago, a 3- month-old baby was killed in a drive-by shooting. we return the that had to be turned around the city -- to tell you how that turned around this city. >> a girl was there an hour ago in oakland when mayor jean quan pics celebrated initiatives to set a state record with our own hideout block party tonight -- her own block party tonight. you can find more information and a complete list of...
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yesterday, with the ping-pong diplomacy, it was fun. i tried not to worry about it, but i said, i do not want to make a mistake because this is international and everyone wants to feel welcome, that they are involved. but as a mayor, you have to worry about many things. so i go to sleep tired, my notes are in front of me. i have to read my details and be prepared. it looks like sometimes i'm having fun, but in the back, my staff is working hard to prepare me, making sure i understand everything. it is not just making mistakes. it is doing the right thing and making sure it is the right way to do it. i compare myself to the other mayors in other cities. i went back to the conference of mayors and i asked mayor bloomberg of new york. how did you do this over 10 years? these mayors, they have really been helpful. willie brown has been helpful in giving me advice about things that i did not have. i have had some private conversations with people about how to do things. that is part of my were read. i also enjoyed a lot of support from peopl
yesterday, with the ping-pong diplomacy, it was fun. i tried not to worry about it, but i said, i do not want to make a mistake because this is international and everyone wants to feel welcome, that they are involved. but as a mayor, you have to worry about many things. so i go to sleep tired, my notes are in front of me. i have to read my details and be prepared. it looks like sometimes i'm having fun, but in the back, my staff is working hard to prepare me, making sure i understand...
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ping-pong tables along with colorful paint schemes, scooters and pets roaming free have become almostche. so, airbnb is upping the ante. much of the office doesn't look like an office at all. no cubicles, just loads of open space. a random piece of an airplane fuselage and replicas of some of their most sought-after vacation properties turned into meeting rooms. what is this? >> this is actually one of the top listings on airbnb. it's the mushroom dome cabin. and it's right here in california. >> reporter: welcome to what they call the berlin room. a meeting space that is an exact replica of someone's apartment in berlin. a job that fell to office manager kelly robinson. >> the couch you see is custom made. all of the art work, you know, we had an artist paint them to exact replication. even the m mirrors you see, there's a hand mirror that's in the listing, you know, very antiquey kind of feel. and this lamp as well is definitely painted. all the same, all the details, these bottles were in the actual apartment. >> reporter: right about now, you might be thinking, really? come on. ho
ping-pong tables along with colorful paint schemes, scooters and pets roaming free have become almostche. so, airbnb is upping the ante. much of the office doesn't look like an office at all. no cubicles, just loads of open space. a random piece of an airplane fuselage and replicas of some of their most sought-after vacation properties turned into meeting rooms. what is this? >> this is actually one of the top listings on airbnb. it's the mushroom dome cabin. and it's right here in...
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supposed ton quick on a certain topics supposed to be quick, but i thought i would start on the light ping round of juan williams with charles. charles? >> >> if i known i had been called upon, i wouldn't have worn genes this morning. [laughter] on cable, there's no hiding here. at first, i have to thank juan because every time i give a speech, juan provideses the best line of the night. i always start by saying i'm happy to be here or detroit or whatever the city, i try to get the city right. [laughter] the group, the michigan medical association, i hope i get that right, and then i say truth be told, i'm happy to be anywhere where juan williams can't interrupt me. [laughter] >> is that so? oh, no, and i make faces at you to. [laughter] i rock the house immediately, and i want to thank juan for that. he's been such a great friend over the years, and i'll say something here i've been preparing for years to say on the air about juan, but i've been holding it back, but i'll give it away. one day, i'm going to say, so much error, so little time. [laughter] everybody's when they hear it will k
supposed ton quick on a certain topics supposed to be quick, but i thought i would start on the light ping round of juan williams with charles. charles? >> >> if i known i had been called upon, i wouldn't have worn genes this morning. [laughter] on cable, there's no hiding here. at first, i have to thank juan because every time i give a speech, juan provideses the best line of the night. i always start by saying i'm happy to be here or detroit or whatever the city, i try to get the...
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you saw the ping pong group yesterday. everyone enjoys that. i think asian community wants a successful city that is balanced. it but not always have to be the pocketbook, but they want a quality city. that is why they came here. it is about the richness of the city in general. do i want to keep living here? do i want to make my life here? that is on the minds of many asian families. i went to lunch with some sixth graders from alice fong. i said, do you want to be in the city? yes, i want to be in the city. they were asking me about twitter. they play some of the zynga games. they did not know that their headquarters were here, but they need to know that, growing up. we want the chinese companies to also use san francisco as their headquarters and to continue to be the gateway. people love that about the city. asian families, the matter their income -- they could be a hotel workers, garment workers, for ceo's, they all want -- or ceo's, they all want a quality city. my job is to make sure they trust government, so that when we say something, w
you saw the ping pong group yesterday. everyone enjoys that. i think asian community wants a successful city that is balanced. it but not always have to be the pocketbook, but they want a quality city. that is why they came here. it is about the richness of the city in general. do i want to keep living here? do i want to make my life here? that is on the minds of many asian families. i went to lunch with some sixth graders from alice fong. i said, do you want to be in the city? yes, i want to...
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not sure if it would be a good thing i know because either they just sort of stop and follow the law ping that you were trying to catch them in this poll they'd run to cross because they wouldn't want to be seen dead. i decided that if i didn't want to permanently a couple of circuits in my mini most beach would have to suffice but that wasn't going to be my last job on the bench. it's. just so. wealthy british scientists are. the type of. market finiteness. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike's cause or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cause a report. if . it would be soo much brighter than if you knew more about someone from feinstein impressions. please for instance on t.v. don't come. if . you want to talk over. here the street still keeps the secrets of the times from feel that the soviet files on oxy. chills to drive a couple of real russian classic cars in a bogus bunch of rich rich sophists just tips his talents off the reds if it's. your me alone to play all the rules is all well and good but sometimes you just f
not sure if it would be a good thing i know because either they just sort of stop and follow the law ping that you were trying to catch them in this poll they'd run to cross because they wouldn't want to be seen dead. i decided that if i didn't want to permanently a couple of circuits in my mini most beach would have to suffice but that wasn't going to be my last job on the bench. it's. just so. wealthy british scientists are. the type of. market finiteness. find out what's really happening to...
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the chinese basketball association the star trio themselves stating their options remain open maki ping a close eye on the station's back home former n.b.a. player stephen marbury plays in china but the two time all-star said most american players would find extremely long training sessions tough going but nothing he said that isn't a problem should the potential move transpire oh. but we've been training on our life so as far as training in their goals. you know that comes with the territory but as far as coming over we always says this whole trip that she's open hopefully we want it to come in or we hope we have a season but who knows we shall see. bruising awesome is in store for rugby enthusiastic with a world cup in new zealand just over a month away we'll have quite a warm up on their hands this weekend a classic battle against england at twickenham a good way to reach the red man's reading this the welsh will be without their captain matthew release for sunday's trip to trick or neck injury and could very well miss their world cup opener on september eleventh against holder south
the chinese basketball association the star trio themselves stating their options remain open maki ping a close eye on the station's back home former n.b.a. player stephen marbury plays in china but the two time all-star said most american players would find extremely long training sessions tough going but nothing he said that isn't a problem should the potential move transpire oh. but we've been training on our life so as far as training in their goals. you know that comes with the territory...
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fifteen minutes and according to defend their land often on this business only one game so far this can ping this site has gained the confidence and composure needed for victory for himself i think as we've begun scoring goals that swart we lacked before now we manage the game better now we play with more control not so desperately like we did before when we couldn't score a goal and got desperate and intended to attack pool that didn't help so i think we changed a lot of things not too many of course but the results speak for themselves and selling to fans at the back adds to their taking units confidence fernandez has been a rock in front of dinner was ned seems he made a move from argentina inside river plate in two thousand and six and very soon became one of the fans favorites being handed the play of the year award by their supporters and after six years here his become a true dilemma veteran says he's over there six years i've never had a problem on that with foreigners or with the russians i think the best thing that football gives us is the ability to make friends here the climate s
fifteen minutes and according to defend their land often on this business only one game so far this can ping this site has gained the confidence and composure needed for victory for himself i think as we've begun scoring goals that swart we lacked before now we manage the game better now we play with more control not so desperately like we did before when we couldn't score a goal and got desperate and intended to attack pool that didn't help so i think we changed a lot of things not too many of...
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we have some updates on ourew na ping news with that earthquake in japan.y with us. [ female announcer ] make after school even more fun with totino's pizza rolls. big pizza taste in a bite size roll that my kids can't resist. plus i get two box tops for their school. totino's pizza rolls. the pizza way to snack. and safeway's 10% back to schools program, now there are two ways to earn cash for your kids school. from august tenth through september thirteenth look for products marked with the yellow bus and earn even more by signing up for e-box tops at 2ways2earn.com. [ woman ] sam begged and pleaded... so i sent him to camp. we'd earned lots of points with our new citi thankyou card... and i put them to good use. he told me about his bunkmates, and how he signs up for every activity. ♪ he even hangs out with the camp director. just like that. [ male announcer ] the new citi thankyou premier card gives you more ways to earn points. what's your story? citi can help you write it. >>> an update on our breaking news. a sizable earthquake has struck japan about
we have some updates on ourew na ping news with that earthquake in japan.y with us. [ female announcer ] make after school even more fun with totino's pizza rolls. big pizza taste in a bite size roll that my kids can't resist. plus i get two box tops for their school. totino's pizza rolls. the pizza way to snack. and safeway's 10% back to schools program, now there are two ways to earn cash for your kids school. from august tenth through september thirteenth look for products marked with the...
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of our decades of dictatorship is of the throne this is only for dirty things no only for doing the pings fee's fighting has continued since rebel forces and to tripoli during the week and much of the city bears the scars a war on top of months of relentless bombing by nato you have with ends of the bloodshed emerged when hundreds of bodies were found in a hospital abandoned by stuff in the arrival of rebel forces with no one clear control and many residents now live in fear of anarchy and of armed men from dave sides of the conflict. this man proudly shows as a trophy one while he took part in the overrunning of conduct his residence probably his asea when we entered we saw many weapons and i quote there is no good country anymore the but the man says he would love to have another prize duffy's had was great and up this was a good thing to show this is such a way that there is none of that and that she was just my. son right now the kind that's. still at large this guy is not yet over there is no. tripoli. and i want tripoli is celebrating the end of a big taters ship analysts are skepti
of our decades of dictatorship is of the throne this is only for dirty things no only for doing the pings fee's fighting has continued since rebel forces and to tripoli during the week and much of the city bears the scars a war on top of months of relentless bombing by nato you have with ends of the bloodshed emerged when hundreds of bodies were found in a hospital abandoned by stuff in the arrival of rebel forces with no one clear control and many residents now live in fear of anarchy and of...
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well in the future it's the end of an airshow here in moscow and the end of an era for technology a ping i'm off to catch one of these jets back to the states but the rest of the take up team will be back next month with more from the ever changing world of russian animation two men enjoy the right. there clouds childhood was overshadowed by this tragedy. these two feel the fear they faced. and remember every second of the slight me. it will remain in the memories and hearts forever. the town of anderson so. innocent victims. come a little angels on our cheek.
well in the future it's the end of an airshow here in moscow and the end of an era for technology a ping i'm off to catch one of these jets back to the states but the rest of the take up team will be back next month with more from the ever changing world of russian animation two men enjoy the right. there clouds childhood was overshadowed by this tragedy. these two feel the fear they faced. and remember every second of the slight me. it will remain in the memories and hearts forever. the town...
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people of all decades of dictatorship is the other thrown this is only for dirty things no only for the pings he is fighting has continued since rebel forces and to tripoli during the week and much of the city bears the scars of war on top of months of relentless bombing by nato and you have it ends of the bloodshed emerged when hundreds of bodies were found in a hospital abandoned by starfleet in their arrival of rebel forces with no one clear control many residents now live in fear of anarchy and of armed men from both sides of the conflict. in the basement proudly shows as a trophy one while he took part in the overrunning of conduct as residents covered his asea when we entered we saw many weapons and daiichi kuan there is no gadhafi anymore the that the man says he would love to have another prize that office had. was great and justice was the government to show this is something that should be their leader this is the model that ends it she was or she was. some writers and other kinds that's why did they kill still at large these bible is not yet over the result. cheerfully. i'll toss l
people of all decades of dictatorship is the other thrown this is only for dirty things no only for the pings he is fighting has continued since rebel forces and to tripoli during the week and much of the city bears the scars of war on top of months of relentless bombing by nato and you have it ends of the bloodshed emerged when hundreds of bodies were found in a hospital abandoned by starfleet in their arrival of rebel forces with no one clear control many residents now live in fear of anarchy...
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decades of dictatorship is be a throne of god this is only for dirty things no only for doing the pings he's fighting has continued since rebel forces and to tripoli during the week and much of the city bears the scars a war on top of months of relentless bombing by nato you have it ends of the bloodshed emerged when hundreds of bodies were found in a hospital abandoned by stuff in the arrival of rebel forces with no one clear control and many residents now live in fear of anarchy and armed men from dave sides of the conflict. the these men proudly shows as a trophy one while he took part in the overrunning of conduct his residence double as a zia when we entered we saw many weapons and right cheek on there is no gadhafi anymore was the at the man says he would love to have another prize khadafi has had was greatly weakened obviously this weekend to show this is something that should be their leader this is the final step and that tripoli was just what. was celebrated as oh not the kind that's. lauch this battle is not yet over. cheaply. and christopher a blog on the region told us here
decades of dictatorship is be a throne of god this is only for dirty things no only for doing the pings he's fighting has continued since rebel forces and to tripoli during the week and much of the city bears the scars a war on top of months of relentless bombing by nato you have it ends of the bloodshed emerged when hundreds of bodies were found in a hospital abandoned by stuff in the arrival of rebel forces with no one clear control and many residents now live in fear of anarchy and armed men...
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police were nowhere to be seen police have not been anywhere where the police it's a case where the pings are maybe this is what david cameron means when he talks constantly about the big society handing power and responsibility back to local communities and i think the scenes we all saw television screens last night of communities coming together to try and stop violence taking place was a model of how these things should be done that despite the fact that three young asian men were killed in birmingham early on wednesday trying to protect local businesses looters allegedly rammed the with a car the tragedy. the asian community a vigilante band attracts all thoughts and bad tell it doesn't just head. this is a huge number of police officers on the streets of england at the moment which many find reassuring but groups like the enfield army prove that communities still feel police are unable to protect them and with budget cuts the front line officers still on the table. could get fewer and further between while vigilance and we could take up the slack. as politicians brand most of the rio
police were nowhere to be seen police have not been anywhere where the police it's a case where the pings are maybe this is what david cameron means when he talks constantly about the big society handing power and responsibility back to local communities and i think the scenes we all saw television screens last night of communities coming together to try and stop violence taking place was a model of how these things should be done that despite the fact that three young asian men were killed in...
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stocks are going like a ping pong ball. the ask you to up 121. the nasdaq up 38. the s&p 500 up 15. so what is the fear over in europe? it's the debt crisis. what is that all about? the debt crisis is france today. the idea is -- we're eat united states of america. we're one country, many different economies in each statement of the euro is a bunch of different countries, a bunch of different economies, a bunch of different political systems. some have the countries have indebted themselves so much that they need hoght every countries to help out. if they go bankrupt, someone has to eat it on all of the bailouts and each of the small countries faces that. someone will have to eat this. it's unclear who would be left holding the bag. that's the fear creeping over from europe to our side of the pond. >> it's hard to predict this. usually august is lighter trading. not many traders. you think the volatility may slow down in the days and weeks to come? >> reporter: you're exactly right. usually people take a break in the summer, kind of like congress. unfortunately, congress is the only
stocks are going like a ping pong ball. the ask you to up 121. the nasdaq up 38. the s&p 500 up 15. so what is the fear over in europe? it's the debt crisis. what is that all about? the debt crisis is france today. the idea is -- we're eat united states of america. we're one country, many different economies in each statement of the euro is a bunch of different countries, a bunch of different economies, a bunch of different political systems. some have the countries have indebted themselves...
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brand new thing or new for the last thirty years but let's talk about the last thirty years that all ping countries it is a miracle in history that asians and some other developing countries have gone from poverty to wealth in the last thirty years and i think that's part of a world trade system like i said free trade multilateral institutions of which the i.m.f. is a part it's completely a loser it's almost comical to say let's look at some country that the i.m.f. was heavily involved in ok not the u.s. because they're not heavily involved some country where they are exercising influence and look for a miracle of growth down in the office like a doctor you know of course you see doctors around sick patients you can't take a correlation and say all these doctors are all you see sick patients therefore they cause sickness of course they come in a crisis you can't judge them by saying they're very seen in the vicinity of crises ok do you want to jump in there. well you know if i can come in there. first of all i'd completely welcome the rapid growth of china and india and brazil and other c
brand new thing or new for the last thirty years but let's talk about the last thirty years that all ping countries it is a miracle in history that asians and some other developing countries have gone from poverty to wealth in the last thirty years and i think that's part of a world trade system like i said free trade multilateral institutions of which the i.m.f. is a part it's completely a loser it's almost comical to say let's look at some country that the i.m.f. was heavily involved in ok...