well heard pings. we went to look where the pings were. we didn't find the wreckage.oneous. no one has talked about the technical side, the australian, the malaysians, the united states giving us technical reasons why they're not. but this is what we know. number one, the frequencies were off. >> frequencies were off. >> they were supposed to be 37.5. they came in at 33.3. another one was at 27. number two, the distances between the pings was always way too large. these pingers only put out a signal that can be heard one, two, three miles maximum. you're talking 10, 20, 30, 40 miles that they allegedly heard pings. it just doesn't make sense. number three, there was a chinese -- one of the chinese ships at a spare pinger which i was told was actually put in the water there was a british nuclear submarine which we never heard a lot about after the very beginning, which allegedly could have put out a signal that would have been picked up. >> these are things that could have sent false pings. >> these are some of the technical things you have to look at it with a jaundic

>> but i take it you believe that these two pings, the first two pings, are good.ule out the last two, will that really affect the search much? >> no. i think they're going to try to focus on the loudest and longest duration pings that they have. and also the fact that over a period of 2:20 which is thousands of pings, we had a very stable pulse repetition rate of 1.106 seconds in between each of these pings. and for sea life to do that for that period of time would be very unlikely. >> i want to turn to that other big mystery now in the search for flight 370, the inmarsat data, families want to see the raw data to determine the search area, they want to see it for themselves so they can track it. malaysia said don't look at us and inmarsat said they turned it over. what's your sense of what's happening? >> i listened to the heated discussion you had just before the break. i'm glad i'm a few miles away from that. okay. it turns out that the malaysian government has a very, very poor history. they've changed what they reported as the aircraft's altitude, direction,

it's a wider area because they have no pings.e's no possibility of any pings at this late date. so it is back to the drawing board, meaning back to the inmarsat data. australia has said they might try to put on traditional aviation navigation waypoints, like what you'd fly if you were flying the highway in the sky to see if it's possible the plane was following those on its own or by piloting. so they still have the leads that they had before. they just don't have the ping data because it's been exhausted. >> mary schiavo and david soucie, thanks so much for joining us and lending us your expertise, as always. >>> ahead for us "@this hour," there's about a 50/50 chance you've been hacked this year. wow, that's according to a new study. we're going to speak to a hacker turned security consultant about how to protect yourself, even if that's possible. >>> here's some crazy video to see. a storm chaser struck by lightning. whew! lives to tell the story. we'll talk to him coming up. what you wear to bed is your business. so, if you'r

rene, why are officials now having doubts about the ping data, and specifically those two sets of pingsy observed on april 8th? >> that's right. so, erin, a u.s. navy source revealed to us today that reanalysis of some critical data is under way right here in the united states. the source says a couple of agencies, u.s. agencies, as well as consultants, they are now taking a fresh look at the pinger data. crews, as you know, they've centered their search around those four pings believed to be from flight 370's black boxes. cnn has now learned in three to four weeks, these u.s. agencies and consultants are now expected to say whether they believe those sounds were from the black boxes or something else. why do they have doubts? because of the frequency, as well as the length of time at which they were detected. also, erin, "the wall street journal" are reporting about doubt coming from, of all places, the people searching for the missing plane. according to "the wall street journal," an australian naval officer says further analysis of pings number three and four has led authorities to d

they have been searching where the pings were heard and now say the pings are believed to no longer have come from the so-called black boxes. let's talk to former ntsb managing director and tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director. it's pretty shock iing, when yo think about it, early on, everybody talking about the four pi pings coming from the black box, voices saying, not so fast. they weren't the same megahertz or ping boxes supposed to deliver. they said, well, maybe the ocean changed that a little bit. they were pretty insistent those were the pings for the black boxes. >> they were the only thing they had. there were questions phrased, the wrong frequency and even distribution where the pings were heard was questionable. they had nothing else. the reality is if they said we don't think this is it, they were obligated to search. they've done it. it's not there. we're in this for the long haul. >> now, they're suggesting maybe those pings came from the vessel that was searching and it was emitting some song and that's where it was coming from. you would have thought technical expe

at least they thought they were pings and when they went to check it out, it -- they weren't pings from black boxes at all. someone mislabeled a tape from a testing that happened days before. and they were listening to the testing tape. so these mistakes happen. it's perfectly fair to raise these doubts about the data. but you know, it is a tough position because there's no evidence. without evidence, there will always be questions. >> rene mash, thanks very much. peter goelz, tom fuentes. >>> still ahead, donald sterling's exclusive interview with our own anderson cooper. he's here in "the situation room." there he is. we'll speak to him live next. >>> and a vote that is called a farce. we're getting new reaction. stand by. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. golive garden'svorites asignature favorites, just $10 including creamy fettuccine alfredo, and our classic lasagna. plus unlimited soup or salad and warm breadsticks. signature favorites, just $10 all week long, at olive garden. i missed you, too

navy says the underwater pings are not from the plane's black boxes. the entire search for nearly two months has focused on hunting where those pings were heard. it's a stunning setback, and rene marsh broke the news. and rene, wow is really all i can say right now. >> i pretty much said the same thing today, erin. i said wow when we learned this information, because it all boils down to this. for seven and a half weeks, we've been searching for something that simply was not there. the u.s. navy is on camera and talking to cnn tonight. we are told the black boxes were not in the search zone, and most likely neither is the plane. it was the most promising lead, and now we know it's false. new information the u.s. navy has concluded these four underwater signals were not from the missing plane's black boxes. >> from the u.s. navy's standpoint, these sounds were most likely not from the black boxes. >> yes, i'd have to say at this point, based on all of the imagery data we've collected and looked at. if that black box were nearby, we would have picked it

you talk about the pings, the frequency is off, the information contends it is the pings. until you can say differently, but as of today i have been taught differently. there are fishing nets, pings that put doubt in me that these pings are really from the aircraft at this point. so now we have two pieces of information that together add to their confidence but separately in doubt. >> miles, i saw you shaking your head when ari was talking. >> well, it is highly unlikely this is a ping attached to a marine mammal. any scientist worth his salt is not going to ping repeatedly, you run down your battery and data. whatever happened to that sub, the tireless, was it in the neighborhood doing some sort of sound i sounding at 33 kilohertz, the fact is they have something they're not sharing. do they have defense radar information to lead them where the information went? i would call upon them to release that data now. and what about the chinese who had a ping sounding that they heard prior to this ping sounding that we're talking about? we never really followed up with that one,

the area of ping one.e two highest quality pings that they received. that is where officials believe that that plane does exist, and the bluefin will continue to work until it can't work anymore. at least, the "ocean shield" can't work anymore. it will have to come in for refueling eventually. on this company, georesonance, that made so many headlines yesterday and created so much interest, they have just released a statement, sort of pushing back the media and other people who they say don't understand their technology. they call it their quantum physics technology. everybody from nasa on down, literally, would like to understand how this company came to the conclusion that there may be a jetliner down there. they have not allowed that technology or their study to be public, saying that it is proprietary in nature. the bangladeshis have sent two frigates to that area to see what they can see. but look, if there's not going to be anything floating on the surface this far on here, there is likely not to be

the second is the pings. the pings. the officials looking for flight 370.mber, it was all about the pings? they had confidence because at least they had the pings? turns out now they're not so sure about the pings. what does that mean? if they don't have the pings, what do they have? we're going to review how they were found, where this lack of competence now comes from, how long have they known this. we'll take you through both of those big stories, and of course, everything else that's going on that you two didn't care to talk about. >> yeah, we just chose not to talk about it. no, the ping news is fascinating, because what have they been doing for two months? two months they've been searching that area. >> fascinating the word. >> it's the euphemistic word, the non-four-letter word. >> euphemism, explain that to me later. >> thanks, chris. >>> new bids for the l.a. clippers rolling in. how much could the team go for if donald sterling decides to sell? mine was earned in korea in 1953. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] on

or all of the possible pings? ping one and two were both texted on april 5.remember three days later, april 8 there were pings three and four. we we know anna just sat down with an gus houston. >> i saw her interview and she asked him what the next steps were going to be. he was not reacting directly to these reports. you do sense that he plans on seeing this through. take a listen to what he said about the search. >> do you think something could be found within the next month? >> we are pursuing the lead that we have at the moment. we need to pursue that lead to its conclusion. if we don't we will go on to the next phase of the search. >> they will keep on searching. and with the lack of any other evidence they have no other choice. we are awaiting an update to get a response regarding the doubts refeeled. we will get a response to that from this record but again, fresh doubt is never good because a lot of resources and manpower have been poured into searching for those black boxes. >> thank you. >> now we have it, the very first snippet to leaks from hillar

see if they hear some pings.at be interesting if they heard pings and it turns out that maybe there was some other source for the pings in that area. if they're doing nothing, maybe that would help run that idea to ground. >> that's an interesting point. richard quest is with us. he is in south africa. richard, interesting point miles is raising which why not listen for pings again. because if you hear them at this point you'll know they're not from mh 370's flight data recorder. right? you'll know it's something else? >> and i think that's exactly the process that they're now under way with. having had to rush to the area for the first 30 days, then do that initial search, they really do have the time now to actually go back and look at the science, do things like miles says, go and tow a few pings and see if you hear anything, and basically review from top to bottom. so much of what was done originally was done in extremis and just to get it done before certain deadlines passed. those deadlines have been and go

navy official suggesting that maybe those pings weren't really pings to begin with. >> it's really more a matter of perspective, because what you call a blow i call a matter to celebrate. you know, if, indeed, those sounds were the pings, which by the way, i haven't believed since the beginning, then it would be a confirmation that the flight is under water. but you know, as a family member, i mean, i'm still hoping. this is a really sad commentary on the state of our circumstance, but i am desperately hoping that philip is being held hostage by a hijacker. and you know, only in this situation could i possibly say that. but you know, the ping frequencies were wrong from the beginning. i'm a serious scuba diver. i know that frequencies don't change under water and they don't change from a deadening battery. they may not go as far when a battery goes down, but they don't change frequencies. i'm astounded that they put as much credence on those as they did. >> and so much time, sarah, and effort following that critical lead. you've been very critical of the investigation so far. what is yo

this is -- they've got the search where the pings were.f it does not prove out, then they're in for a very long time. and they're going to be using t towed rays, it's going to be slogging on month after month. >> it comes on the heels of an article by ari schulman in which he said that inmarsat, those pings from the satellite, those handshakes as they were called, they may be way off base as well. >> he said that, and then admitted their opinion is based on a lack of all of the facts as well. so they don't have all of the material that the analysts have that came to the conclusions in the first place about the inmarsat data. so there's still a question there. because he's putting the caveat of we don't have all of the information, but we think the information is wrong. >> because if all of this new information that's coming out raising questions about the inmarsat satellite, that southern arc into the southern indian ocean, now the information about the black boxes and the pings, if all that turns out to be accurate, this new information,

those pings, so to speak, are in question.urse, the headline today is flight 370 isn't where they thought it was. also tonight, we have more from our exclusive interview from a navy official who told us that the pings were not from the plane's black boxes. the navy quickly tried to walk back those comments calling it premature and speculative. premature perhaps. but this morning they called it accurate. it's now official, australia telling the world that flight 370 is not in the area where pings were detected. >> no signs of aircraft debris have been found. the area can now be discounted as the final resting place for flight 370. >> reporter: that means it's back to focusing on a larger area, hundreds of miles elsewhere along the inmarsat achl arc. this, one day after michael dean, deputy director of the ocean engineering, said in an exclusive interview, the pings were likely not from flight 370's black boxes. >> our best theory at this point was it was likely some sound produced from the ship. >> it's not in the area and it s

>> it was interesting because we didn't know before now that the two pings, the second pings that theyn april 8th were 27, which is far lower than the 37.5 that are expected. so that's why they are ruling those out. interesting to me though that this hasn't been mentioned before. nobody said anything about this before. they even told us before they were searching within the area or planned to within the area of all four pings. >> we appear to have lost david there. he's suggesting that it's odd that we did not hear that two of the pings, the ones heard second a few days after the first two pings were heard, of a much lower frequency. david, are you back with us? >> am i? i don't know. >> yes, you sure are. >> it's snowing out here. >> if two pings turn out to be not good, if two turn out to be pings not related now to flight 370, how can we know for sure the two other pings, the ones they say are good, how can we trust that? >> we really can't. i've been saying all along that's the best choice they had or best option they had for staying around that area. i've been doing a lot of resea

that's where pings had been detected last month. but really stunning about face, that promising lead, as they described it, is now in doubt as well. a u.s. navy official telling us the pings were not from the plane's black boxes at all. will? >> kate, certainly a punch in the gut for the families of flight 370 who this whole time had been thinking that there was a promising lead with these possible pings detected in the southern indian ocean. this is the area the bluefin-21 has been spending hours and days searching. the bluefin-21's mission is not now over. that search has turned up nothing. the australians confirming overnight that they do not believe that mh-370's final resting place is in that several hundred square mile area where the bluefin has been scouring and searching for closure for these families. at the same time, the u.s. navy telling our very own renay marsh that in fact the pings detected in early april may not have even come from an airplane black box but perhaps could have been caused by the search ships in that a

, ping. [ ping, ping, ping ] >> these have been used for about a decade now.used to measure water and light and salinity and color chlorophyll. we can build a 3d map around the animal that is tracking and it knows exactly where the animal is in that 3d space as it's moving. our goal is to be able to say when the animal suddenly dogs something different, is there some aspect of its environment that is causing it to do that? >> well, of course everything is easier said than done. so that's why the group comes to catalina, testing. >> we're hiding the transmitter on the sea floor and get the robot out to find it, to get as accurate a positioning as possible. >> the two chris kno chrises know that they have hit the target when it's circling. and guess when what, it's circling now. >> i envision a day, when we can measure aspects of behavior that we have never been able to measure before. and we're going to build a database of the ocean that's scale. this is going to change our view. >> if i've learned anything today, it's that science and innovation can come in di

had been detected pings believed at the time to be from the flight data and cockpit voice recorders. day after day, the sonar went down and day after day no triple 7. well, now, we're beginning to get some idea of why. and it is surprising. details from renee marsh. >> reporter: it was the most promising lead and now we know it's false. new information the u.s. navy has concluded these four underwater signals were not from the missing plane's black boxes. >> from the u.s. navy standpoint, these sounds were most likely not from the black boxes. >> yes, i would have to say at this point based on all of the imagery data that we have collected and looked at, if that black box were nearby we would have picked it up. >> reporter: when detected in april it boosted confidence that the plane would be found. >> the four signals previously taken together consty statute the most promising lead. >> reporter: but now the navy says the sounds could have been from the search ship itself or other electronics. >> we may have very well been in the wrong place, but again at the end of 30 days there was

so therefore, the pings they thought they heard were not from the plane?ly, yes, that is what we're told. they essentially said look we had bluefin down there. and we know that that bluefin completed its last mission today, searching some 300 miles of as soon as floor. they say if the black boxes were there they would have picked them up. i said what is the sound, they would have detected it on four occasions. the answer is, they really do not know. they don't believe it was from the black boxes. but perhaps it could have been a sound from the ocean shield, the search itself. >> how confident would you be that you can just rule out the presence of black boxes? >> that is a great question, anderson, and i haven't seen any of the data yet so it is tough to answer that. but if -- phoenix is very capable. >> that is the group that is doing this. >> yeah, that is the group doing this. so if they say they found no evidence they found no evidence. to me this is still a tough call. if you hear somebody lost in the woods and you hear their voice calling out to you,

some people refer to ping as the satellite ping, others are pinnings heard underwater. but as far as the families, they've been doing interviews and you can see the anguish in their faces. [speaking in foreign language] >> this man's son was on flight 370 when it went missing and says he is upset because the malaysian prime minister doesn't plan to meet with the families while visiting china while other family members have been expressing their feelings about yet another dead end in the search for this plane. listen. >> it just is another slap in the face, another long road for us, and, look, i'm just shattered by the news. i'm absolutely shattered. >> as for malaysia airlines the union representing its employee is calling for the resignation of the malaysian airlines ceo and a representative of the union is saying it's not just because of the missing plane but because of years of bad substance for the airline. >> nigeria's president just declared a war against the terrorists holding the school girls captive but analysts say the kidnapping is already a huge victory for

there's no chance of hearing the ping from the airline now.me pingers underwater there and see what happens in 30 days. they're saying this is a yearlong search. test it out. find out if it goes to 33.5. >> dave, you say you think the pings that were from the plane. why are you so sure? especially given that the frequency wasn't what it should be? today the researchers and sonic experts came to me and said we don't believe it is pings. i was in shock. at that point you're thinking, why didn't you say something before? we've been searching in the wrong area this entire time. so i reviewed my data again with other specialists and found out two accidents actually in which the pingers did put off different frequencies. they foun the fracture around the top of the crystal inside the unit itself had cracked. so when that breaks across the unit, it changes the frequency. it changed this one to 100 megahertz. another case it went to 40. i haven't found one that went lower. but i do think there is one. i would like to do some experimenting and come bac

i believe early on we had some conversation that what the pings -- what could sound like a ping but doguess? >> i really don't if if you listen to what angus houston said though he said they're not from machine made source. so, you know, there are some whales that, believe it or not, that make a frequency like that and they do tend to repeat about a second per time. it's some kind of communication that they do. whether or not those whales are in that area and the fact they would have been able to put it out for that long at a second per pulse, it's unfeasible to me. but the fact that angus houston said it wasn't from a manmade source is very perplexing to me. >> i think that comes from the captain of the ocean shield, the captain of the ship deploying the bluefin. seems to be -- there doesn't seem to be -- there is a discrepancy between the people in charge of the search. >> yes. >> let me get your final take on a report out from atlantic magazine. miles, i'll start with you. they have a report out that really kind of calls into question the analysis of the inmarsat data which is impor

now all of this follows earlier comments on the pings from a u.s. navy official. cnn's rene marsh has more. >> reporter: it was the most promising lead, and now we know it's false. new information the u.s. navy has concluded these four underwater signals were not from the missing plane's black boxes. >> from the u.s. navy standpoint, these sounds were most likely not from the black boxes? >> yes. i'd have to say at this point based on all of the imagery data we've collected and looked at, if that black box were nearby, we would have picked it up. >> reporter: in april it gave hope that the plane would be found. >> it cons city tuts the most promising league. >> reporter: now they say it could have been from the search ship itself or other electronics. >> we may have been in the wrong place, but at the end of 30 days there was nothing else to listen to. >> reporter: after searching 329 square miles, the blue fin's mission is over. the search continues in august when private companies take over. meantime, a new potential lead. cnn has learned a sound that could have

navy now on the record of those pings. were not from the black boxes.ys, thanks very much. rene, thanks for your reporting. peter goelz, richard quest, thanks to you as well. >>> up next, more breaking news. donald sterling responding defensively, defiantly to the nba fighting to clean the l.a. clippers. >>> plus, chilling new details of an alleged american suicide bomber. we're getting more information on the deadly attack and why u.s. officials are so concerned. mine was earned in korea in 1953. afghanistan, in 2009. orbiting the moon in 1971. [ male announcer ] once it's earned, usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection. and because usaa's commitment to serve current and former military members and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. hey! so i'm looking at my bill, and my fico® credit score's on here. we give you your fico® score each month for free! awesomesauce! wow! the only person i know

odd about those pings.re not pinging at the right frequency. >> they were slightly off. >> slightly off. >> but they're arguing that could have been caused by the water the environment, stuff like that. >> i've heard arguments both ways, wolf. so we're not sure. that's what the reassessment is going on right now. >> the article is entitled why the official explanation of mh-370's demise doesn't hold up. the last sentence, searchers have yet to find any hard evidence, no so much as a shred of debris, to confirm they're looking in the right ocean. thanks for coming in. >>> coming up after the break, international assistance now arriving in nigeria to help find the nearly 300 kidnapped schoolgirls. our guest, the nigerian-born massu, the general manager of the raptors of the nba. this situation strikes close to home for him. ple a question, how much money do you think you'll need when you retire? then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. i was trying to, like, pull it a l

the pings sent teams searching 329 square miles of the southern indian ocean. it's possible the pings came from the drone submersibles being used or the ship. a short time ago a u.s. navy spokesman said dismissing the pings was speculative and premature. >>> veterans affairs investigators have substantiated serious conditions at the va hospital in phoenix, arizona. according to an interim report released today, the report shows veterans in phoenix waited an average of 115 days for their first appointment. three months longer than the hospital reported. in addition, investigators say they found 1700 vets waiting for medical care but who were not on an official waiting list. 42 va facilities are under investigation for possible abuse of scheduling practices. >>> the ymca of silicon valley failed to properly supervise an aide accused of molesting four young girls. that's what a lawsuit filed today by one of the little girl's families claims. nicholas has pleaded not guilty to child molestation charges. the civil suit said the ymca violated state law by allowing hi

if not the flight 370 pings, what were they?cause what we get is sort of filtered information. we get -- we get information that changes, whether it's the altitude, the heading, the transcri transcript, the composite recordings that they finally gave us and now whether or not we have pings. >> were they man-made hthen? >> we want to be on the ship and observing them and make that decision. it's hard to tell from what we're hearing. it just changes every day. >> it certainly does. david, you say there is certainly much debate about the nature of the pings. why is that? >> in the beginning there was because we didn't have enough evidence and no one on the outside had the actual data to look at. all reading between the lines on what has been released. so i think that is very normal that there would be some debate about what those pings were in the beginning. >> so i guess, jeff, what does this mean in terms of the crazy conspiracy theories that are out there? >> really two big mysteries involving mh 370. one, what happened to the p

the pings, i researched the pings.here are several that said the pings they found were not from underwater locator beacon, they were things that track whales or turtles. i checked with everybody. they said the pingers that ping every second as these did are no longer manufactured. haven't been for ten years. the fact that someone said that could be out there, i think the batteries are probably dead now on those. i am very convinced the more information i get, the more i am convinced they're in the right place searching. >> miles, you, too, do you think they'll find it? >> i do. it is a matter of time. it is unfortunate. we heard the pings, that was a very fortunate thing in the search, unprecedented, not having wreckage on the surface to hear the pings. i am pretty confident those are the real thing. but i think we had an expectation it would be a matter of days before they find wreckage and it is not that simple. >> miles o'brien, david soucie, great to see you both. thank you. >>> can twitter help reunite families in

the pings detected on april 8th, "wall street journal" says those sources say those pings may not bee black boxes. the pings on april 5th might be. can you parse that out for us? >> it's interesting this information that came out today about the fact that the second set of pings on april 8th were only 27. we were questioning 33 frequencies we got on pings number one and two. this puts into question a couple of different things in my mind. one is why did this information not come out before and two, again are they questioning or actually doing these searches because they think this is from the airplane? from what we are hearing, they don't. there are other things that might create these sounds and it's very disturbing to me the fact that they are going back out with bluefin doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. >> jeff, let's talk more about this. what i got from this article, pings they picked up on april 8th were short in nature and didn't sound quite right. the pings picked up on april 5th were sustained for more than two hours. >> yeah. i mean, that itsel

now the pings are said not to be from the missing plane. >> if we knew that the pings were not correctat they were not coming from the aircraft, which i have heard from some people on the ship, why did they continue that search. we have talked about that. you don't want to be left saying we don't think it is so we're not going to search any more. you owe something to the families to continue to search. but why didn't they say look, let's get other equipment out there instead of waiting until now. >> so there is that, dotting the i's crossing the tst. but then you have back in the d day. >> i have been looking at the inmarstat data. >> as we follow up on that, since i have you, i would love to ask you here about these multiple close calls back here at home with planes in the sky. investigators say they asked the flight to perform a go around to avoid the collision but both planes ended up veering in the same direction coming within a quarter mile. what can the faa do about that. >> the faa can start to get more intent that the atrophy of the controllers. the more that people rely on aut

. >> four ping -- i'm wondering now if those pings can be false positives?verything we have -- they have searched this entire area. they have found nothing. now they're trying to figure out if they should review their calculations. do they know for sure that this plane is down there? even with those so-called pingers that were heard? >> i'm beginning to wonder if they believe in the pingers. i have been looking a lot of investigating, trying to convince myself they're not pings from this aircraft. >> that's a change, all along you were pretty sure they were. >> that's why i am, there is no one, not one scientist has any alternative for what that could be. the only thing i have heard was that it could have been a distance sonar sounder from a submarine or a mystic thing out in the middle of nowhere and it was 100 kilohertz. >> is this all for naught? do they even know for sure they are searching in the wrong place? >> for me, there is no reason the pingers is good. when the chinese first heard a singer he was on a surface. he was a pinger drifting or tagged o

it's called "ping-pong summer." >> how are you? time i interviewed you probably 30 years ago. what's your secret? get it out of the way. >> i don't smoke or drink. >> i know. smoking is so bad for you. >> "ping-pong summer," this is an interesting concept. it really does take you back to the he a80s, right? >> yeah. it's a really fun movie. i've been playing mothers in the '80s for 30 years now. but this is a really fun movie. and it's so -- it's so square it's hip. i mean, it went to sundance and it went to south by southwest. and it's a really sweet coming of age comedy about ping-pong. >> and that's why susan sarandon is in it too, right? >> absolutely. i was so thrilled to work with her. >> this young boy, he's adorable. he's such a nerd, and he loves hip-hop, and he wants to be good at ping-pong, right? >> yeah. it's really funny. when i read the script, i was like, wow. but then when i saw it at sundance the audience just really laughed. because it's kind of like a throwback movie. >> yeah. >> which can either be be soul fulf

if it wasn't the plane's black boxes, what were those pings? >> they're theorizing it could have been from the equipment itself, from the listening devices themselves or from the ships and going so far as to guess that if there was even some kind of short in the equipment, that could have put out an erroneous signal. they are not suggesting i think seriously that it was any kind of marine life. they're suggesting it came from the search vehicles or the ships. >> so -- but not a false positive, mary, from something else? >> it's a false positive because it's not the black box. they thought it was. there are a lot of biases in investigations. it's a tendency to latch on to the first piece of evidence you get and try to make the rest of the pieces get. it's called confirmation bias and anchoring bias. that's apparently what happened here. >> david, does a statement f a plane may not be in the original search area, does this discredit the search investigation? >> it does in my investigation. mary talked about the biases. in 1967 we started the nati

they'll do the search in this area and maybe, just maybe these pings were the right ping and this willime, i can't imagine them abandoning this site given the information we have. it is contradictory, it does seem flimsy, but they are pings. >> so that search will continue, ocean shield heading back to the search area and we'll return to that effort as soon as possible. and at the very same time, you have folks looking forward. how do we avoid this from happening again? david, inmar sat coming out to now offer free flight tracking service. did that surprise you? >> it does a little bit. it depends on how they plan to implement it though. if what they're using is this new found math that they talk about with the doppler radar and the fact that nothing is necessary on the aircraft to modify, to increase this ability to track, then that's fine, it is free. i suspect it's more than that. i think it has more to do with the communication between the aircraft which again is still reliant on the transponder, still reliant on the flight management system and the data being sent from the aircraf

navy official tells cnn those infamous pings did not come from the plane. >>> right now

>> but how reliable would the pings have been if they were in triangulated area. >> they're going to go a bit wide wider still. so you're still in the ball park, just not at the diamond. >> richard quest, thank you so much. and don lemon will be live here at midnight on cnn with that press conference from kuala lumpur. >>> as hillary clinton weighs a bid for the white house there is one issue that could be a deal-breaker. >>> and the exclusive interview with president bush, what he says about his brother in 2016. hey kevin...still eating chalk for hearburn? yea. try alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heart burn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. alka-seltzer fruit chews. enjoy the relief! nineteen years ago, we thought, "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished proje

and there there were pings. you have to operate under the assumption those were, in fact, from the black boxes. >> i want to talk about the families because they have shared this open letter to malaysia's government and i just want to read part of that to you, this open letter. we implore the malaysian government to share the data. we feel it is necessary that the data be subject to independent third-party review. it is our hope that with out of box thinking the whole world can help to look for the plane. les, you don't seem to think that is a good idea to release this information to the families? >> well, listen. i've been involved with an accident investigation on the peripheral side more on the -- but i've watched an accident investigation crew work and with the ntsb here in the states. the problem is if you start releasing too much of the data and everybody gets involved and too many cooks spoiling the brew, now you're going to really damage the well-being of these families by sending it off on another wild

but the article says the pings only tell you how far away the pings are, not what direction.hat do you think led searchers to this southern area to begin with. if we talk about handshakes, once the handshake was made, the communication that went through that connection take astern amount of time. not only do they know how far away it is from the satellite but they can also learn from that how quickly it's moving away from the satellite while your hands are connected. once the handshake is done, they can measure that through doppler and that is what this doppler term is all about. if the satellite was stationary it would be so much easier. we would know that we had a fixed place in space but that is not the case. it's unable to stay in a continuous earth or bit so it's doing this elliptical movement moving north and south in a number of miles. not just a few feet. it's going two or three miles so it depends on what time and wear that doppler was received as to whether or not it's accurate. and that's what this report is partially pointing out. i think that's the most critical

>> playing ping-pong. it's like ten nigs, only smaller.eal name is table tennis. >> i know what friggin' table tennis is, okay? what i don't get is why you play an indoor hobby when you're at the beach. what's the matter? ocean not good enough for you? >> he actually makes a good point. leah thompson here in the guest spot. you are known for making a lot of great movies about the '80s. now you've made another piece about the '80s, even though you made it this year. but why are the '80s such fertile ground for filmmakers? >> i have no idea. i've made a good living at it. i think i might be the only actress who's played, you know, a mother of someone in the '80s that's a teenager, 30 years in a row. i don't know. this movie is so fun. because it's kind of poking fun with the most affectionate heart at the '80s. mike tuly, who wrote it, it's kind of like his life. when i read the script, i didn't quite think it was as funny as it was when i saw it at sundance. he just had this attention to detail about the '80s. and it's so affectionate. it w

. >> we concentrated on that area because the pings were the best information at the time. that's all you can do in circumstances like this is follow the best leads. >>> a landslide victory for the chief sisi. he has won the presidential election. >> an amphibian invasion. we meet the toad that could spell disaster for madagascar's unique environment. >>> let's begin with breaking news from ukraine where a military helicopter has been shot down apparently by rebels in sloviansk. journalists saw the helicopter explode. a pro russian group says it's holding four that went missing. the men are safe and will be released soon. okay. let's talk. we tried so hard to get it right. i apologize. let's talk about the military helicopter. what's happening? >> other journalists, ukrainian and russian, this is a helicopter that delivered equipment to the hot beds of tensions and strong holds of the pro russian rebels in the area. after it dislodged a group of soldiers it was going back. at that point there were two explosions. one in the air and one on impact. there was a plume of smoke

. >> what does this mean, though, david, for the pings? and i have talked quite a bit about the pings and that's why they're searching where they're searching. >> we really have. handshakes we'll call these, the pings are the under the water stuff. but the handshakes i think is what is the most difficult thing for them to reconcile with their math because there's too many things -- there's too many variables, the relationship between the airplane and the satellite and the satellite itself and the ground station which is the aes, the air to earth satellite connection, and those things are compensated and that's the information that malaysia didn't release so they kind of have a half story here and the math that they've done so far showing where the aircraft was at specific times doesn't really line up a whole lot. >> david gallo, are you confident in the satellite data? >> that's way out of my field of expertise, although i've had five years of algebra 1, it's still a bit out of mire league. i'm quoted in that article saying that no one i k

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that's where they detected several pings last month that matched the pings from the black box. still, it wasn't the exact location, but it was close. they will bring in better equipment starting tomorrow. what they have given us now is a series of sort-of locations. former fighter pilot in the navy has gone over this. what we learn from this is where tle got the pings. little more? >> little more than that. what i'm holding here is a 47-page report. this is essentially a big long spreadsheet with satellite communications on it. the australian agency leading the search provided information on their website explaining how the data was used. these arcs you are seeing, these are based on the time it took for the signal to travel to the plane and back. but even the director of malaysian aviation admits this is confusing. >> i don't understand it. we need experts to look at it. >> some experts and family members complain that the report is missing information that explains exactly how the data was used to come up with the possible flight path. things like algorithms and things like t

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