, , allan pinkerton, the famous railroad detective, sort of found of what becomes the secret service, multiple versions of all of this. there were some controversies, other people in lincoln's entourage also claim that the new different things, but it was known even in the 1860s. it was known that he had passed through something very dangerous, that i was surprised as a look more deeply into it that most people i talked to new rotatable about it. harold serving everything about it, but it wasn't really in the general knowledge. i found it somewhat uplifting, because we all know the tragic end up lincoln's presidency and of his life, but the nearness of his escape from death in 1861 allowed me to realize we got four years of an extremely consequential presidency and if we hadn't gotten those four years might very well be two countries instead of one right now. >> right. so harold, coming back to you, i'm curious, how is the research process different for this book than from your previous work? i have seen you interview newt gingrich and you got bill clinton to i guess answer written qu

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reminds me of the turn of the 20th century when you saw the industrialists, you know, bring in the pinkertonome in and they would intimate workers from trying to organize or workers who were on strike and they would get together and they would create these goon squads and they would beat up people. that's not necessarily what we saw right here, but what we saw still had the same reaction for the folks who are the target of it. that's what we saw. >> well, okay, fine. those folks do what they want. it's horrible behavior. >> right. >> but for the -- this is person who occupies the oval office. to encourage that kind of behavior says a lot about who you are as a person and what your moral compass is. as my mom would say, who raised him? >> well, you know, i know this is a tired -- well, who did raise him is a good question because we are still trying to figure it out. maybe mary trump might have insight into that. but don, what's interesting is when you look at the whole situation and thousand republicans a -- and how the republicans are reacting to it, this is the same president -- i know thi