joining us now at the table is piper kerman.the public consciousness and the culture, particularly because you had a book people wanted to read, and a show people wanted to watch. what are your goals here? >> in talking about solitary confinement specifically, my goals are to see far fewer people put into both administrative segregation, which is long-term solitary confinement, but also disciplinary segregation, which is theoretically short-term, but is often 90 days, which is a very long time for someone to spend in solitary confinement, particularly if they suffer from mental illness, which a disproportionate number of prisoners do suffer from, and particularly female prisoners. >> and you said, we're talking about only about solitary, because you're working on several things, not only solitary. let me play some of your testimony on another important issue. let's listen. >> solitary is also misused as a threat to intimidate and silence women who are being sexually abused by staff, which is a widespread problem in prisons, jail