back to that cause the reports i'm not to go to sweden and talk with rick fox founder of the pirate party rick and i pronouncing that correctly your name clearly credits rick how can actually it's a scam they deny but yeah i mean you're all right rick that vignette you know recently written in declaration of war you call for the formation of an internet liberation army tell us about it yeah i tend to agree with the sentiments there's this there's not in most there's lots of activism going on right now and there's this philosophical question about who's really police and who's crook right no what we're seeing is a struggle over power over information who's guarding what people can access who is determining what knowledge can be oxus by whom and i think this is going to be a creative defining high for the next decades to come all right let's talk a little bit about the swedish pirate party so this is a national political party with representation in the swedish political body as i understand it correct and how did you get that to that point and just to clarify the name platform or manifesto obvi