clemens from pirkei and lazar had been tied to those networks. they were in the middle. b.c. homberger and asperger isolated in the top of the far right and psychiatrists. so what the slideshows is the ideological split in psychiatry predated the annexation of vienna. he and his institution that psychiatric community were already divided in asperger and his crew were already far off from the mainstream. see, i told you the slide works. let's go inside asperger is clinic where there's a different, more progressive men. it generated many of their therapies and published articles at the importance of compassion and play-based techniques. we would recognize many of her techniques today. following her lead, clinic staff paid attention to you two seem to have difficulty socializing and the staff collectively called these children autistic. this is as early as 1934. they were using the term autistic. they did not consider autistic and negative pathology. it is a character trait. so physician and psychologist antibias speech published articles about characteristics of the 1930s. they

pirkei it is funny -- >> host: it is funny and you heard this in your research. >> guest: i heard from so many families. that's what my mother was doing the right her mother was doing ratio is that she was a secretary. it's almost caring teacher was sent. >> host: david is in las vegas. please go ahead. >> caller: yes, can you hear me? hello? >> host: please go ahead. we are listening. >> caller: i just wanted to make sure i was life. may i call you wise up? >> guest: sure. >> caller: i'm watching c-span and i always do every weekend. it was a few weeks ago and they had the spotlight on world war i, the code breakers by an american gentleman. do you remember anything at this person? >> host: david, i apologize. i can't remember what book that is. we've covered some books on this topic including barclays shetterly's and rocket girls and now of course liza mundy "code girls." michael from beachwood, ohio. you are on with author liza mundy and we are listening. >> caller: hi, this is my goal. i hope you can understand the all right. i am a 30 year veteran of the security group. one of the