only had ten qualities to enumerate in drafting a thumbnail biographical sketch of him, they would be pius, brave, generous, intelligent, charismatic, patient, visionary, stubborn, egalitarian and, most of all, realistic. >> guest: yes, sir. i think he's very much an enemy who we need to respect because of his capabilities. much like the allies felt about rommel during world war ii. they know they needed to kill him, but they had to be respectful of his ability to fight them. and i'm afraid what we have gotten from some authors and most politicians is a caricature of bin laden as either a criminal or a thug or somehow a neoist or a madman, and i don't think that's true. and i think it retards our ability to understand the enemy we face. >> host: what's the danger of that caricature, in your view? is. >> guest: well, the danger is we underestimate capabilities of the man. bin laden runs an organization that is absolutely unique in the muslim world, for example, because it's multiethnic, multilinguist tick. and there is no other organization like it. it's more like a multi-national organizat