well, his successors, first pius x and pius xi had to back off from that daying the vatican as a prison. pius xi said if you'll give us a certain number of advantages, muse leanny, if you make education in the italian schools catholic, if you'll treat catholicism as the state religion of italy, then we'll set up a concordance with you, and you'll give us the status of a separate country. the van can is a separate country. it doesn't have any normal citizens, you know, no women citizens. it's got post offices and other signs of the government, but it's a fake government. it's a fantasy government. you know, it's kind of a disneyland government. [laughter] nobodiments to take -- nobody wants to take it away. my wife refused to go to the vatican after the first few times. it's got beautiful treasures in there, but it's a great fortress is great treasures inside, and everywhere, paintings of the donation of con stan tine, the mystical giving of worldly power to the pope, painting on chairs of the bishop peter, which he never was, coats of arms of all of the noble popes who took over in the

pius 11th was buried. the discover of king tut's tomb also died. the italians called a call to arms to war babies the first time around. when i visited the draft board i noticed my card was filed with a crease at it's corner. farther's laughter was louder than ever. clients who decided to buy had their paintings shipped to houses in the country. i noticed lucie hiding bags of sugar in the closet where i kept my tennis racket. to mother he repeated. don't worry, she replied, i do. i wonder if they rrmed they had a son at all. yet that month seemed to pass more slowly than others. rose's presence was fleeting. i passed by father's office as she sat by the type writer in a green sweater with a hole in the elbow. i found her in the bathroom once with a black tongue as a pen had burst when she licked it's anybody. i handed her a towel and said, just ruin the cloth. to the light in the courtyard i sang along with my new american record. there is a hungry yearning burning inside of me and i felt every word in the marrow of my bones. august said, i hate th

you mentioned about pope piu sms pius xxii.lent about the jewish population in europe all the comments came out later and pope pius xxii was already dead. it was a matter of his reputation and, indeed, not his actual papacy. in this particular case this is happening in real-time. in other words, you know, is this going to be the problem that the elephant in the vatican that won't go away. >> we've seen the same thing in the pedophilia scandal, silence. >> silence as opposed to moral courage and moral witness. basically what you see from an institution that you would desire the kind of courage and fortitude and risk taking that would come with devotional fervor, you see instead cowarding, complicity, calculation of interest, institutional navigation. >> conformity -- what did our bishops said about guantanamo, the drones, perpetual war. silence. >> this is the problem. it's a theological issue. you can't say i'm against the health care plan and not speak out against the horrors that's happening. this is where people don't want t

people wouldn't call me pius. i hope i'm holy, but i don't think people would call me devotional or pius. there is a beautiful sense of the gentle movement in the holy spirit. no thunder and lightning, no sledgehammers, people getting knocked off their horse. but you gradually sense a movement toward a man and you pray hard, talk a lot to one another, and there is a gradual movement to it, that i found just generated a lot of joy and serenity. >> were you trying to look at anybody's ballots? >> i may be irish, but i wouldn't stoop to that. >> walking up with it in your hand. how big a moment in your life? >> to go up, make another oath and put it on this beautiful -- you put it on the tray and take it so it goes in. and those are stunning moments. and there is silence. most of the conclave is silent, see? not a caucus, not a convention. light a liturgy. prayer. you begin and end with prayer. it's very quiet. like you are at a retreat with a lot of thought and prayer reflection going on. >> so pope francis off to a

the cardinals, assuming that might have been there, thinking electing him, have we created another pius. >> i don't think he's transitional the way ratzinger was. there's no question he was not on the very, very short list of most people because most catholics thought he wouldable in his 60s or 70s but they decided, was he the first person they wanted? apparently not. so what happens is let's get somebody acceptable to everyone, which is why it went into the fourth or fifth ballot. >> neil: by the way, 76 is the new 56. so you don't -- >> but he doesn't have any lines on him. >> neil: we can remember this. i thought he looked so much like pope paul vi and thought i'm having a flashback. >> 35% of catholics are latino. i started with my catholic church teachings in spanish harlem. >> the most booming part of the church. thank you very much. more on this surprise announcement, including whether it had a divine effect on what i'm about to show you. the dow jones industrial average posing the seventh straight record, the longest streak in 26 years. the dow has had nine straight up sessions,

people wouldn't call me pius. i think i am holy, but they wouldn't call me devotional or pius.s of the holy spirit. no thunder and lightning, no sledgehammers, no people getting knocked off their horse, but you gradually sense a movement toward a man, and you pray hard, talk a lot to one another, and there is a gradual movement to it that i found just generated a lot of joy and serenity. >> were you trying to look at anybody's ballots? >> i may be irish, but i wouldn't stoop to that. >> walking it up in your hand? >> to go up and make another oath, you know, and then to put it on this beautiful -- you put it on the tray and take it so that it goes in, those are -- those are stunning moments and there is silence, most of the conclave is silent, see. not a caucus, not a convention, almost like a liturgy, an occasion of prayer. you begin and end with prayer, so very quiet. almost like you are at a retreat, where there is a lot of thought and prayer, reflection going on. krard natur . >> cardinal dolan, thank you for the insight. >> i will be here until march 19th. is that the mass

stand by for an equally distorted comparison to how pope pius xii dealt with the nazis in the second world war. given the liberal bent of many jesuit, especially in latin america, it is safe to say that these men, often regarded at the shock troops of the church, may have reacted with dismay over the selection, but with due respect, intellectual rigor, rather than humility has been their hallmark in these times. the papacy of francis may be a teaching moment for them, too. a basic lesson of this pope's election may be that humility is hard work. it is not for pushovers or phonies, or those who cannot rid themselves of pride. and dante's purg tory, those whose sin was pride had to carry large stones on their backs to learn humility. francis, as a priest, already knows this. and the load he must carry will be grace. >> eric: they tried to steal an election. so said the prosecutors about a four-year-long voter fraud case in new york that just ended. as a new one begins in ohio, where a veteran poll worker is accused of voting, once, twice, three, four, five... six times. s in hidden fee

. >> can we drop a little bit of the pius bologna? the fact is, you ran in '894 and lost. >> he is the worst republican in the country. >> if mitt were there, we would not be facing sequestration. >> sequester day. >> shaking off a sequester hangover. >> the two parties could not agree. >> the sequester is now in effect. >> i don't know whether it's going to hurt the economy or not. >> are the two sides playing chicken with each other. >> the president got his tax hikes. the president got his tax hikes. he got his tax hikes. >> what about the next budget fight to avoid a government shutdown. >> the president doesn't believe in manufacturing another crisis. >> they won't do battle to fund the government. it takes the prospect of a government shutdown completely off the table. >>> mitt and ann romney gave their first interviews since the presidential election, in which they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the best man won. >> it was not just the campaign's fault. i believe it was the media's fault as well. is that he was not given

though, are not reading too much into it pointed out that the only one pope in the past century, pope pius was on the eve a world war two. >> every of the cold has taken longer to decide the results of the conclave fourth ballot is expected around noon today. we will watch to see what kind of smoke comes out of the chimney. >> watching the latest out of the east bay community on alert after a graffiti threat is found in front pleasanton high school. >> mike pelton has been following the latest. >> district officials and school administrators just wrapped up a meeting will brinwe brought you their public comments live a while ago. they want to keep the school and the students safe. >> they found it yesterday afternoon written in graffiti inside the girls' bathroom. this is post-it in part the threat read i hate everyone at the school. watch me sued everyone on march 14th. the school has issued a cap the secular and some letters homes. some parents and not sure their kids are coming here tomorrow. >> i did not know yet. i think i will ask other parents and find out what they're thinking. i d

the conclave that was five days to elect pius the xi and they had very important decisions to make about vatican. and i think this conclave if they take a little more time to decide what are the major issues and who it is they trust to lead them, i think it would be fine. i do secretly in my heart of hearts hope it will be friday as well. >> thank you. that's going to wrap up this hour of "vajansing and co." >> thank you. our agenda next hour, u.s. soldiers killed in a deadly attack in afghanistan as new defense chief chuck hagel ended what was a rocky, intense visit to that country. what does it mean for u.s./afghan relations as america prepares to draw down our troops. >>> plus, this is how lunch with the president pays off, congressman paul ryan getting ready to introduce a budget that depends on repealing obama care. we'll talk to house members on both sides of the aisle. >>> queen elizabeth making waves with plans to sign a charter that some see as a show of support for lbgt rights. it's not that simple. i'll be joined on that and much more coming up at the top of the hour. years in

ralph reid was back pretending to be pius. it really was hilarious.'t want to hold up the tent with one poll. [♪ circus music ♪] >> oh, boy. >> stephanie: you say i bet you wouldn't you lumber jack you. >> yeah. i hear jacki schechner giggling in the background. >> yes i'm here. >> stephanie: and then you talk about tony perkins one of our favorites. [♪ "psycho" scary music ♪] >> no, mother, no! >> i can't say anything until after my clue. >> stephanie: i think you did homage to jim ward here. >> it was a very subtle one. >> stephanie: after a brief outburst of reason perkins reappeared dressed in a frumpy frock, and kitchen knife. >> yeah. >> stephanie: and you say the polls are skewed again -- >> yeah, again. >> stephanie: and you say if all of those people believed that why didn't they vote for willard romney those damn turn coats. >> exactly. >> stephanie: and then your summation i love. you say it's not about marriage. it's about the marriage alter, no it's about men and women and their peep peeps, and who has. well aid said. >> thank you. it's a

rich was here at the election of pius xii, i think, weren't you?did, sure, yes. a big applause. first of all, when he reached the vote of 77, and we knew, here's the man, and then when it was announced again at the end by a tally, and when he said achepto, that's a great moment of -- i don't think there was a dry eye in the place. [ inaudible ]. >> you know, i just heard that, rich. we couldn't hear what he was saying. because -- what do you call it -- the public address was going out that way. we couldn't hear. so i was captivated. in fact, i asked on the way home, i said, i heard the silence. i said, i wonder what's going on. and that's what i heard. isn't that magnificent? yeah. and i understood he asked for prayers of gratitude and intercession for pope benedict, that he would lead the people in the two favorite prayers of a catholic. like a father, a good teacher. i don't know what else -- i do know that when we were waiting to go out, see, all the cardinals go up to give our love and loyalty and assurance of prayers. and then there were a lot

. >> it was on this day in 1939 that cardinal eugenio was elected pope also known as pius xii.urch until his death three years later in 1958. we should, of course, find out monday when the college of cardinals will form their conclave to pick the next pope following the abdication of pope benedict xvi thursday. it was also on this day just months after the attack on the world trade center that u.s. air and ground forces in afghanistan launched an attack on taliban and al qaeda fighters in the mountains of afghanistan. here's how the offensive was reported on nbc "nightly news." >> the operation began late yesterday. u.s. military personnel including special forces on the ground and in the air with attack helicopters and tactical strike aircraft along with hundreds of coalition and afghan personnel launching an assault on an area where several hundred al qaeda and taliban forces were believed to be hiding. loss of life in the battle not confirmed until this afternoon. >> u.s. coalition and afghan forces have sustained casualties. >> it happened in eastern afghanistan south of ga