i i think what the piza shows us is how much wasted potential there is in this country. it shows us what's possible. and i think what tom spoke to about what we saw in shanghai was that this is not some magic, it's not something that's unique to the chinese culture and i thought this was so fascinating. we go in there and we're listening to the man who's really led not only their engagement in piza, but intelligent indication system in the last few sec dads. he says the number one driver of our success is the quote, open door policy. we sent our j indicators to other countries and that drove a revolution in this country. and i just think it's so fascinating because i would say we're far from that. question look at the piza ranks and it's like, les defend america rather than let's go fijd out what they are doing differently in these countries that are so far ahead. >> to the point that there's not some magic to chinese culture, what i was struck by is that the shanghai school is two years ahead of the massachusetts school, which is our top performing school. if you just d

i was looking at piza sample test and oregon high school math test.igh school math question, certain valley has six snakes, they double in number every year. how many years will there be 96 snakes. that's just count wrong your fingers. a piza test by comparison says, hike up to the top of mount fuj six 18 kilometers, a man can go one and half kilometers an hour on the way up, three kilometers an hour on the way down. the park closes at 8:00 what hour in the morning does he have to leave to be back before the park closes. now, it's not multiple choice, there's a whole lot of mathematics. the oregon test was a multiple guess question. we simply don't ask enough of our kids. that's a huge -- >> john, let me ask you because all these things we're talking about you've reported on the program for many years. i mean, common core questions are things that go to a whole school of form generally, teacher accountability, evaluation, all kinds of things. where do you think we are more generally speaking now with the school reform movement. is it still going ahead