they had been pkk strongholds.crime investigators were able to get to the basements for they were filled with rubble. the army took bodies away. he took me to the side of the basements. his father was killed there. turkeys european allies are letting it get away with murder. turning a blind eye to get turkish help with the wider middle east in crisis. you have blatantly watched all those atrocities because of the refugees. i am not bothered about europe anymore. what they did or didn't do. the whole world is responsible for what happened here. >> the united nations wants to send human rights investigators into this area. there is no physical trace left of the lives of thousands of civilians, kurdish civilians who lived in this part of town. this is about much more than personal tragedy. turkey matters. it is deeply involved in the war in syria. and a leading member of nato. the eu hope that turkey will be a big part of the solution to the middle east refugee crisis. so instability in turkey is a a problemr europe a

both pkk and isis have put turkey in their crosshairs.ommunityting of the of the deputies, pkk will escalate terror. they killed six people yesterday. isis will escalate terror. very poor season. that may sit uneasy with investors. this is not over by any means. the first objective of the interim government is to enact legislation to allow the president to be affiliated with his party. unfortunately yesterday the nationalist party said it will not support such an amendment. we really have to choices. either it they will cohabitate goil 2019 or he is going to to snap elections. before the end of the year turkey will have another set of earlier elections which is going to be destabilizing for the economy and investor sentiment. manus: you are right. that is a big warning sign in terms of the tourism, etc.. i want to get to the merkel- erdogan relationship. he has her head in a vice-like grip. correct.certainly he did a huge favor to merkel by stepping -- stopping the flow of syrian refugees. the numbers are sharply down. i think down by 90%

guerillasied to pkk in turkey. they have arabic fighters with them with units from the free syrian army because the possible lack of trust -- worth noting, goes both ways. fighters whoh won't allow local arabs back into villages. we heard statements about the force on raqqa, but at the moment it is the kurds who are best placed. they are closests and have had the most traction and training and support from americans and air support. laura: there seems to be a renewed push on 2 major fronts, syrian and iraq. adam: the battle in fallujah is in a more advanced state. shelling the city proper, the first city taken by teh islamic state group. is any people's eyes it long-overdue battle. there are complicated trust issues, to the extent that the shia militian taking back out of thell be city proper. if they are not able to enter the city that could make it more difficult. there are concerns with teh civilian population. armyhvae been asked by the and tribes to wave the white flag but that would allow them to be identifie

>> yes, >> is the pkk a terrorist organization in the eyes of the turkish government?>> the pkk is a terrorist organization not only in the eyes of the turkish government but in the eyes of the us government as well senator. >> is a surprising to you that the turks may be upset with us by arming the why pg in syria since they are so closely aligned with the pkk. >> know it's not at all. we have, let me just say that and the germans been involved in this as well. we have extensive consultations with the turks. >> so turkey is okay with this. >> they are not okay with this. >> they are not okay with this. they think this is the dumbest idea in the world and i agree with them. how many of the syrian democratic forces or whatever we are talking about our kurds versus arabs general dunford?>> there's about 6000 arabs senator. >> what percentage of forces that? >> that's about 20 percent. >> okay. so if you are wondering why turkey is a little upset, we are arming people inside of syria aligned with a terrorist group that fighting the turkish government. turkey could do more

the president's ruling party accuses the htp of having links with the outlawed workers party, the pkk. the htp denies this, but if they lose immunity, they then race prosecution under her coney and anti-terror laws. many read this as a government move to shift the rule and allow the president to implement his new consitution. the public prosecutor says you are demanding kurdish autonomy. it's all about telling people who support terrorist groups elsewhere or with other means, telling these people this has to stop. the htp might now go to the european court of justice to retroactively revoke their loss of immunity. christopher: let's get more on this from our correspondent who joins us via skype. the president needed 2/3 of lawmakers to back this bill, more members of parliament and his party has. where did he get the extra votes? >> he got most of them from the nationalist party, but he was still short of votes. those came from the centerleft republican people's party. he was supporting this reform, but made no secret of his misgivings, and his party was not even expected to turn up t

state-run news agency has blamed pkk militants for the attack.mayors took ton the dock for their trial wednesday. they stand accused of orchestrating massive and systematic summary executions during the 1994 genocide. it is alleged they played a direct role in the massacre of hundreds of tutsi refugees. it is the second such trial held by the special court, which was set up to go after suspected rwandan killers who fled to france. our reporter has been following the proceedings and sent this update. >> the first day of a child that has been historical point -- this trial seen as the struggle by all parties, studying the objections of the defense lawyers. they say the whole case is based on testimony on events that took place 22 years ago in a small village in southeast rwanda. hundreds of tutsis were massacred and the 2 defendants are accused of having organized this, having taken part directly in the massacres. they face life in prison. defense lawyers say they had no access to the witnesses until now. on the other hand come prosecution points t

turkey sees the ypg as just the syrian arm of the pkk. sorry with all these acronyms. but the u.s.y. the u.s. sees them as two completely separate groups. there's this large group that exists in syria right now, the syrian democratic forces. those are who the u.s. is really working with. the u.s. is allying with in the fight against isis. but the syrian democratic forces are made up primarily of ypg. so the whole notion that there's the syrian democratic forces that is fine for the international community, that the turks don't have a problem with, is just -- it's insincere, it's not true. >> the point being there's an incredible thicket of cross h h cross-alliances and both sectarian and ethnic animus and it means something when the u.s. is seen as being closely allied to one specific group which is not an arab group, particularly in the midst of this very fraught civil war. courtney cube, thanks for that, appreciate it. >>> a study in contrast. one president who wants to see a nuclear-free world. one ex-reality star who won't rule out nuking europe. that's next. there's no one roa

the escalation of violence between turkish security forces and the pkk, the kurdistan workers party, has led to mounting civilian deaths and a crackdown on kurdish nationalist activists. many kurds also face discrimination in schools and in the labor market. leaving the european union would lead to a decade of uncertainty for the united kingdom, so said the british prime minister as he answered questions from a committee of lawmakers in london. david cameron is campaigning for the u.k. to remain in the eu. a referendum is due at the end of june. his opponents have argued that the country would be better off financially outside the european union. let's bring in someone with a unique perspective on the so-called brexit debate. thanks for being with us. you are well known, of course, for your novel some of talking it who lives in paris. as of tomorrow, catch up on the european adventures as well, taking up a job at the eu in your latest book. then you tell us what you make of the eu referendum debate so far? >> "debate" is a very flattering word, from what i've seen. in the british pre

you know, they look at counterterrorism and they look the pkk as the threat. we talk counterterrorism primarily, we think about isil. it's those dynamics that both of us have to realize our interests. in and find areas that commonly we can work together. in turkey's case, there's areas where we can support them in the overall effort within the sous flank of nato. >> i'm really interested in the seam between north com and south com. we talked about this a little bit and some of the other questions about drug trafficking. is some originated in mexico, but much originated in south america. whether it's drug traffic iking and human trafficking, migrant flows driven by violence in central america, that word bord between mexico and the countries to the south is really important. talk about the kind of working relationship you'd like to form with the admiral. >> that's an incredibly important border. the more we can push everything down towards that border, the less the people will migrate across our southern border between us and mexico. kurt and i are very good fri