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plac constantly tells us is a crime these people should be doing time you know it's amazing this legal convention that they don't have to admit wrongdoing they pay. fine so obviously they did wrong but they don't have to admit to doing wrong is this why is this because they're afraid that if they had to admit doing wrong of citigroup had to come out and say we committed fraud that the depositors would there would be a run of the bank and this would cause the stomach systemic instability but i think isn't there that is that the fact that by allowing a major corporation to pretend as if they have a committed fraud representing systemic risk to the system isn't that something that maybe the justice department should figure out that by propecia ling allowing banks to say to steal money and then they don't have to admit guilt and they pay a one or two percent fine of the money they stole then maybe this is contributing to systemic uncertainty systemic. potential liability systemic injustice and this causes a revolution and you saw the in libya and i want to turn to this image here max from

we have evaluated principal forgiveness programs relative to the tools we have in miin plac today. the conclusion we have reached is on a stand-alone basis principal forgiveness doesn't accomplish our conservator mandate relative to the loan modification tools and techniques that we have in place n now. the principal forgiveness tool that the treasury department has made part of the modification plan is designed to get a borrower in trouble down to a monthly payment of 31% of their mechanical -- monthly income. we are doing that with the tools we are using and we often use principal forbearance, which means for a period of time there is a zero rate of interest being charged on the principal. the principal is not being forgiven. the borrower still has an obligation and responsibility for the ultimate repayment of the loan. we think that is striking the appropriate biologicalance of pg assistance but protecting the american taxpayer. >> you touched upon a good point. fannie and freddie are supported by taxpayer funds. how long are we going to see them do that? >> fannie mae and fredd

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plac former bank regulator the man responsible for putting over fifteen hundred bankers behind bars in the one nine hundred eighty s. after the savings and loan collapse said here on this show the laws were broken and there are no new laws needed and in fact in this clip barack obama then goes on to say this is why we needed the dot frank act well in fact as well in cable access the law is already there you're not allowed to commit fraud there is ample evidence ok well if there if no laws were broken barack obama then why is it necessary for congress to pass a law that gives a grants immunity to the banks is it because the banks. broke the law or committed moral transgressions so let's move over to the u.k. where the other center of financial fraud and how the leader of the country there openly states that there are crimes being committed and then does nothing about it u.k. banks around ponzi schemes before two thousand and eight financial crash says so this is u.k. chancellor of the exchequer george osborne he said the british bank practices before two thousand and eight resembled pon

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