to aid that, i guess, i'm working on a new initiative and a curriculum called planetlines, which... >> hinojosa: and this is for grade school? >> k through university. >> hinojosa: and what's the essence of the curriculum? >> well, it is an environmental studies curriculum. and as i say, environmental studies now for me goes beyond what we traditionally think of environment to encompass human rights, civil rights, economic equity, gender equality, and how we treat each other, meaning all our relations. but at the same time, while we go on this walk and we're collecting this anectodal data, stories about people we meet and what they do and what kind of jobs they have and how they relate to the environment, at the same time you can measure wtih little instruments that we carry, an instrument pack, temperature and humidity and soil moisture and water quality. and all those things go into a line on a web site which allow us to look at our journey, and people tshare that journey. and the more people that do that, the better we know, the more we know about the place we live. >> hinojosa: so