we are joined by mario calvo platero, the us editor of the italian newspaper il sole 24.latero, the us editor of the know there's news russia has secretly deployed a cruise missile in violation of a major arms treaty. what exactly is vladimir putin of two? what is russia's grand strategy? we are joined by mario calvo platero, the us editor of the italian newspaper il sole 24. also joining are edward epstein, an investigative journalist and gideon rose, editor of foreign affairs magazine with guest host . welcome. gideon, why don't we begin with you. what exactly does russia want with all this? >> there's the crazy stuff going on in russia and all of that but is not crazy.rt it is straightforward. vladimir putin is a ruthless leader of a strong, but not dominant power, trying to advance his own country's interest in whatever way he can. the main thing he is trying to do is resist what he sees as regional encroachment, and he wants to push out on the borders and get compliant border states. and he wants to undermine the liberal order that the u.s. and allies have constructe

joining me now for a discussion is mario calvo platero, set u.s. editor of the italian newspaper il sole 24 ore. edward epstein is an veggive journalist author of how america lost its secrets, edward snowden, the man and the theft. and gideon rose, the editor of foreign affairs magazine and an old friend of this program. welcome. gideon, why don't we begin with you. set the scene, what exactly does russia want from all this? >> so there is the crazy stuff going on in america and elsewhere. but the russian part actually isn't that crazy. the russian part is pretty straight forward. vladimir putin is a smart, ruthless, leader of a strong but not dominant power whose trying to advance his own country's interests in whatever way he can. now the main things that he is trying to do are resist what he sees as regional encroachment and therefore he wants to push out on his borders and get nice compliant border states. and the second thing is he wants to undermine the liberal order that the united states and its allies have constructed that essentially runs

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editor in chief for bloomberg filling in for charlie rose am i'm joined by gideon rose, mario calvo platero and ed epstein. >> still largely policy unless you fumly changed to a nonauthor tairian situation in russia. the real problem here is not so much that russia is try fog do es thoo things because frankly the united states of all people, the cia, how hypocritical is it ections, right?ring inbout other the difference is this time there are people in the west, whether in the united states, whether in european countries, who are actually collaborating. >> we continue with andrew ross sorkin's conversation about sports illustrated annual swimsuit issue with mj day and