playerstown, new jersey, mark on our independents line, go ahead. caller: hi. how are you doing? host: fine, thanks. caller: i think all these people got it wrong. they tried to push the democratic plan and the republican plan. the really plan that needs to happen here is they play the games with the fed and all the rest of it. they got to start placing value in america again. i mean, you sit down and look at, from illegal immigration devaluing our construc n@dá and i think you kind of lose your perspective and start focusing on individual trees and miss the forest, which is really what we have to be thinking about. host: you write about some fiscal stimulus during the reagan administration. you write -- host: is there any evidence that this sort of experience may happen with the stimulus bill? guest: well, it clearly did. clearly a great deal of the money that was in the february stimulus package was just pork barrel stuff and things that members of congress have been wanting to get past and just needed some excuse, some must-pass legislation to get enacted. but one of the thing