so i just keep thinking that that -- >> pleasantville. >> what? >> pleasantville. like all society gets really, like we're all going to be so much in this, we are all going to be cookie cutter little boxes. and what is going to fix in. so like it's yeah, it's positive, but oh! nekwisi. >> just a comparison i'm thinking about octavia butler [inaudible] the southern, i think that a lot of people are, like, oh my god, she predicted so much and was so close to it. but it seems like that narrative was just so much more common than we often staying. >> yes. yes. and at the same time like octavia butler didn't get the recognition during her lifetime but she's gotten since those there's a lot of like where was mainstream culture not, listening to the parable of the sewer. >> matthew? >> you said pleasantville and there was a movie 1988 cold pleasantville this coasting doesn't, tristan maguire. >> anderson parts of a liking color unpleasant black about. >> [inaudible] in the form of color and like the mom orgasm in the bathtub, and that causes the tree to both catch on fire

in pleasantville, iowa, so much of the rhythm of life is set by the seasons. planting the seed and then ringing in the harvet, corn and soy mostly. so that june morning in 2015 dawned with no particular omens. shirley carter and her husband bill, started their day as they always did with coffee at the general store. >> they went to coffee every morning to casey's. that was a ritual. >> after coffee, saying hello to neighbors, bill and shirley went back home. bill dropped off shirley at the top of the driveway. >> i let her out of the pickup and she said i think i'll finish my coffee before i chore. and i said, honey, i'll see you between 11:00 and 11:30. >> you never know do you, bill? >> you don't know. >> i let her out of the pickup and she said i think i'll finish my coffee before i chore. and i said, honey, i'll see you between 11:00 and 11:30. >> you never know do you, bill? >> you don't know. >> bill headed off to sell corn at a granary. by 11:00 a. m. he remembers being just a few miles from home when he got a call from his daughter. >> and she said, da

>> you said pleasantville and there was a movie 1998 called pleasantville. >> anderson parts of a liking color unpleasant black about. >> [inaudible] in the form of color and like the mom orgasm in the bathtub, and that causes the tree to both catch on fire and gain color, and so people start, like they have color signs. it's not subtle. >> it's not subtle. like, you know, and it's a popular critique. so also like i'm not wanting to i'm not wanting to overstate that everyone agreed with the end of history. it's just interesting how that framing really has to shape everything, like history is over the, future is not. what's the future going to be? so another example i have, i see your hand, kevin, like the matrix i was thinking about these two films within two months of each other, the matrix and fundamentals, that, like weirdly a matrix is the one where, like, technology has a history of, humans are enslaved to robinson ike break out of it, and there will be a savior who will come and, like at the, and deal triumphs, you flies, at the impression of the machines is going to be over, and t

that wasn't until the pleasantville. like like all like society gets really like we're all going to be so homogeneous. we're all going to be in cookie cutter little boxes. no one's going to fit in so it's like yeah, it's positive but like oh no queasy. just as a anything connection that i'm just thinking of octavia butler parable of the sower. yes. i think that a lot of people are like, oh my goodness. she predicted like so much and we're so close to it, but it seems like that narrative was just so much more common than we yes often think yeah. yes and at the same time like octavia butler didn't get the recognition during your lifetime that she's gotten since so like there's a there's a lot of like where was mainstream culture not listening to parable of the sower. matthew you said a pleasant film and i want to note the there are some movie in 1998 called pleasantville with kirsten dunst and tobey maguire. and isn't like part of it in black and white and parts of it in color. yeah. origin to the town in the form of color

they called them pleasantville's. by using those new express motor ways and private automobiles, it would allow a man quick and easy access to his job in a city. he would also have the ability to live outside of the city center in a private single family home. he can live in quiet comfort. they are describing an american suburb eight years before the first suburb appears in america. there is also the idea that it would be normal for people to drive their own private cars to work. this was at a time when only one in five americans actually old car. most people walk to work. they took public transit. across the fair, there were displays of state-of-the-art high speed railway trains. there were modern airplanes. there were new ocean liners. ford, the ford motor company, they had brand-new sedans. fair goers could drive them themselves on the so-called roads of tomorrow. that's part of the exhibit. get in a car and drive around. shocking. the majority of people in 1939 had never driven a car before. only one in five old o

would live outside the city centers in these leafy rural-esque neighborhoods that they called pleasantville's where by using those new express motorways and private automobiles. it would allow a man quick and easy access to his job in the city, but the ability to live outside the city center in a private single-family home in quiet and comfort. they're describing an american suburb eight years before the first suburb appears in america. and the idea also that it would be normal for people to drive their own private cars to work. this was at a time when only one in five americans actually owned a car. most walk to work or took public transit. across the fair there were displays of state-of-the-art high-speed railway trains, there were modern airplanes. there were new ocean liners. ford the ford motor company had brand new sedans which fair growers could drive themselves on the so-called road of tomorrow. for the exhibit you could get in a car and drive it around this little test track again. shocking the majority of people in 1939 had never driven a car before only one in five own. at the fair